[Redway]

There’s general intuition in the way that everyone understands it (whether they believe it exists or, bizarrely, not) but then there’s Jungian intuition (just like there’s sensation, thinking and feeling), which, like with all the cognitive functions he mentions, can be introverted or extroverted. Jungian introversion/extroversion doesn’t exactly map onto the commonly understand, lay, big-5 definition so you may or may not not be especially outgoing as a Jungian extrovert or quiet/reserved as a Jungian introvert. Social introversion has only so much to do with MBTI and all these concepts come from Jung so it doesn’t hurt to shell out his ideas and do a bit more justice to what he (the one who basically invented the words introvert and extrovert) actually originally meant, in its deeper, broader sense. In this neck of the words, being introverted or extroverted just means that your first function of your type is either inherently facing outwards or inwards and that’s the extent of it. It’s not about how loud/outgoing vs. socially reticent someone is, inasmuch as that does map onto it. You can be an MBTI extrovert but social introvert and vice-versa.

Anyway, here are two videos explaining the opposing forms of intuition in some detail - https://youtu.be/ghnGzIiDTz4?si=d50hb94ta_9REk6X | https://youtu.be/oAXHvzFsTaM?si=44B-wJ9aJtiGskmr - and here’s a brief explanation of it:

Extroverted Intuition (Ne)

Spoiler:

‘Extraverted Intuition is the reason you’re able to consider multiple points of view as equally valid. It is the reason you gain equal amounts of energy when debating ideas with like-minded people or spending time alone and generating possibilities about the future. This is the function that finds the beginning of projects infinitely more exciting than finishing.’

‘Extroverted iNtuition helps people see the possibilities in the external world. These types also trust those bursts of unconscious -- or “going with their gut” -- but in a way that they can explain to others. This is because extroverting iNtuitors are able to notice hidden meanings and interpret them. They entertain all sorts of possible interpretations that could come from just one idea and can see each interpretation as its own possible reality. Using this process, they are able to juggle different ideas, beliefs, or meanings and hold them all as “true” at the same time. Once a common thought “thread” surfaces between these different interpretations of the same idea, the extroverted iNtuitor weaves them all together to form a strategy. When the strategy emerges, the extroverted iNtuitor runs with it. People who direct their iNtuition outwardly appreciate and enjoy brainstorming. Therefore, they are very productive in these types of meetings. As children, they probably enjoyed imaginative play, and as adults in the workforce, they enjoy running scenarios and role-playing. The thought process of extroverted iNtuition provides the ability to think and explore across multiple contexts. These team members excel at activating people and shaping situations. Often, you can find extroverted iNtuitors among authors, filmmakers, journalists, artists, philosophers, and inventors. Make sure you provide these types with a creative outlet to use their gifts.’

Introverted Intuition (Ni)

Spoiler:

‘In a nutshell, Introverted Intuition combines introversion with a sharp, pattern-seeking intuition. So, the primary way the INFJ or INTJ thinks and analyzes the world around them is hidden from others. The Intuition portion is a perceiving function, which means someone with Introverted Intuition will identify patterns and enjoy research, metaphors, symbolism, and hidden facts.’
‘Introverted intuitives spend much of their time thinking about the big picture, the deep meanings behind people’s actions and words, and the whys of life. Although INxJs are the cream of the crop in planning for the long term, their “big picture” focus leaves less room for small details. They seek out the deep symbolism behind life events and often analyze the people around them based on impressions and insights.’

‘Introverted iNtuition frequently involves integrating ideas or concepts that may not initially seem to fit together. This integration opens the door to even more connections and possibilities. You have probably experienced this yourself in a meeting. It’s that moment when someone gets very quiet. It may even seem that they have disengaged until suddenly there is a burst of “Aha! I’ve got it!” Once they have connected their ideas to their internal framework, the person who exhibits Introverted iNtuition has confidence that demands action or application. This helps them focus on fulfilling their vision of the future and is often based on unforeseen trends or signs. This process can involve complex concepts or systems of thinking, or it may include creating symbolic ways of understanding vast, universal concepts. So it is probably no surprise to spot those who prefer introverted iNtuition as their dominant or auxiliary functions at the tops of organizations where the big picture, strategizing, problem-solving, out-of-the-box thinking, future-oriented direction setting takes place.’

[Redway]

How did Jung per-se define Ni (introverted intuition)?

Spoiler:

Intuition, in the introverted attitude, is directed upon the inner object, a term we might justly apply to the elements of the unconscious. The relation of inner objects to consciousness is entirely analogous to that of outer objects, although theirs is a psychological and not a physical reality. Inner objects appear to the intuitive perception as subjective images of things, which, though not met with in external experience, really determine the contents of the unconscious, i.e., the collective unconscious, in the last resort. [...] Although this intuition may receive its impetus from outer objects, it is never arrested by external possibilities but stays with the factor that the outer object releases within. [...] Introverted intuition apprehends the images that arise a priori, i.e., the inherited foundations of the unconscious mind. These archetypes, whose innermost nature is inaccessible to experience, represent the precipitate of psychic functioning of the whole ancestral line, i.e., the heaped-up, or pooled, experiences of organic existence in general, a million times repeated and condensed into types. Hence, in these archetypes all experiences are represented, which since ancient times have happened on this planet. Their archetypal distinctness is more marked, the more frequently and intensely they have been experienced. The archetype would be—to borrow from Kant—the noumenon of the image which intuition perceives and, in perceiving, creates."

Again, the Jungian definition of intuition is a bit different to the commonly-understood mainstream one. And that’s fine. Intuition as a concept is broad enough to have different takes and inferences on it. But in this thread specifically I’m talking about Jungian intuition.

[Kate!]

I'd consider myself the extroverted version overall.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Kate!

I'd consider myself the extroverted version overall.

Yh, I do definitely get that from you.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Redway

Yh, I do definitely get that from you.

How bout yourself?

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Kate!

How bout yourself?

Definitely introverted.

[Livia]

Introverted. I can schmooze with the best of them if it's a work thing, but ordinarily I'm not gregarious. I like my own, close people around me. Other than that, I'm happy in my own company.

[Redway]

And in defence of Jungian typology altogether: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5swy83ckMqw

These videos/resources may or may not be everyone's cup of tea but it's definitely an interesting avenue to dip into every now-and-then. Jungian terminology is often used completely differently to current terminology on some of these things and knowing the original definitions and concepts just adds an extra layer of insight. Especially if you're the sort of person who needs convincing that something as fundamental to human existence as intuition (whether you're spiritual or not) even exists. I mean.

[Gusto Brunt]

Definitely introverted. But not in the extreme.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

Definitely introverted. But not in the extreme.

I mean. No-one thought you were psychic, still. But cool.

I'm glad we can do this intuition ting and not have it turn into an ultimate existential battle between the sensors and the intuitives, like it does in tons of MBTI discussions filled with immature and unhealthy versions of both.

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by Redway

I mean. No-one thought you were psychic, still. But cool.

I'm glad we can do this intuition ting and not have it turn into an ultimate existential battle between the sensors and the intuitives, like it does in tons of MBTI discussions filled with immature and unhealthy versions of both.

Well what I meant by being introverted in the extreme, is that some inroverted people don't like leaving the house because they just don't like mixing with people. I'm not like that.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

Well what I meant by being introverted in the extreme, is that some inroverted people don't like leaving the house because they just don't like mixing with people. I'm not like that.

Like I've already kinda mentioned in this thread, Jungian introversion is more layered as a concept than that. It isn't necessarily the same thing as being a homebody who rarely socialises by choice. That's not really what we're talking about here.

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by Redway

Like I've already kinda mentioned in this thread, Jungian introversion is more layered as a concept than that. It isn't necessarily the same thing as being a homebody who rarely socialises by choice. That's not really what we're talking about here.

Maybe not. But it's what I am talking about and how I see introvertism.

A plain man's guide.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

Maybe not. But it's what I am talking about and how I see introvertism.

A plain man's guide.

I hear that, but, again, the idea can only go so far if you try and measure the direction of your intuition by how outgoing vs. quiet/non-outgoing you are.

[Jessica.]

I want to know what I am but I'm not reading all that.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

I want to know what I am but I'm not reading all that.

Your loss.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Redway

Your loss.

Or is it!