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Originally Posted by BBXX
The issue wasn't with you using the word queer, it was the context it was used in - it was you calling them the ' 3 Queer Alliance' when they themselves haven't coined that phrase. They are not in an alliance of three, you've taken it from when Ali was talking about the triangle and said that in the middle and the bottom are the "queer housemates". Totally different.
Would you group people of colour together and call them a "POC-Alliance" or what about if a few HMs who happened to be friends shared a religion? That would be equally inappropriate.
It's like when you called Henry and Jordan's relationship a "gay parade". Yes, they were both gay but would you ever refer to any straight relationship as the "straight parade".
It's completely unnecessary.
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When do any of us ever have the luxury of determining when and what others call us? That's not reality. Ali got called red witch of all things. I see that as completely offensive, but it's also just as funny. Should I exorcise (no witch puns intended) the part of me that has a sense of humor. I'm sure they didn't get permission to "coin" that term. I feel like the above stance is too rigid and isn't willing to accept that there is subjectivity when it comes to the perceptions surrounding the use of words.
For example, I don't like that Ali took up the red witch term. I feel like that term whatever Marcello & co intended left a hurtful energy on her time in the house. But she enjoys using it, so what am I to say? (And costume looked awesome).
Where people others use names that they call themselves know most will think are vulgar or happen to be one of those wildcard words (Queer is one of them...) that can warrant a pro-acceptance celebration one minute and pitchforks the next. I just don't play that game.
It's deceptive. I think it is ridiculous when the LGBT, or I should say not even the LGBT people themselves but the narcs who now hijacked them... they think they can a plethora of words and tell other people
how to use them... **** that... and there comes a point when enough is enough and we all should stop playing the game. Beso is one of those people who don't play that shitty game and I appreciate him for that
The only meaningful context here is it's being used to comment on a highly edited TV show. This is a TV show forum so we should be able to comment on what we perceive about the house dynamics. If he sees people building an alliance based on an alliance of Queers (perfectly valid use of that term imv, but perceptions obviously vary
)... I might think that the argument could be made that isn't entirely true, that she may chuck Dean at the earlier convenience...
It is a game and I think that the seriousness aspect at which Ali is approaching the game is hurting her time in there more than helping her. She does not have to see things as groups and she shouldn't take offense at things
as groups, but it is a choice to her... and a good argument to have would be about how other people also only see groups and how these terms/etc, get floated about and cause impressions because inevitably when you start seeing people as only being in certain groups, then it can easily create negative feelings/associations for those people... Beso calling them Queer for example, shouldn't have a negative connotation, but we're implying that it could and I think that's troublesome also ... hopefully that was clear, but I'm open to being wrong on any of it, tbh... (Except Beso, I like Beso
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30-10-2024, 07:27 PM
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