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Old 30-10-2024, 11:30 PM #51
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Cliff Richard and Kevin Spacey are interesting ones to me, because both of their reputations are in tatters despite being found not guilty.

Something is wrong in society when two people have had their lives ruined purely off of allegations.
Cliff Richard has a huge fan base and they seemed to stand by him, which is good. I know my Mum will fight anyone who's confused about it.
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Cliff Richard has a huge fan base and they seemed to stand by him, which is good. I know my Mum will fight anyone who's confused about it.
That's good to hear.

Because I'm not in the Cliff Richard fandom, so I was wondering if he had been blacklisted.
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We'll know the truth soon enough I guess.

If it does turn out to be complete and utter lies, then I will be angry, because it makes it harder for the justice system and future juries to know who's genuinely guilty of committing a sexual offense.
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Cliff Richard and Kevin Spacey are interesting ones to me, because both of their reputations are in tatters despite being found not guilty.

Something is wrong in society when two people have had their lives ruined purely off of allegations.
I'm genuinely confused by the Kevin Spacey one , I thought guys were saying he actually assaulted & groomed them?? , or have they been proven to be liars ( sorry I haven't been following his case) . But now I'm hearing ...he confessed to just getting
" handsy" ( which is still wrong btw), but isn't the same what he was originally accused of was it ?.
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Cliff Richard and Kevin Spacey are interesting ones to me, because both of their reputations are in tatters despite being found not guilty.

Something is wrong in society when two people have had their lives ruined purely off of allegations.
Acquitted does NOT mean "found not guilty", it means he was "not found guilty" and these are completely different statements.
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or have they been proven to be liars
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No.
He was found not guilty ? .
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He was found not guilty ? .
Being found not guilty or acquitted -which means the prosecution could not provide enough proof - will never be enough for the "no smoke without fire" lobby.
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Acquitted does NOT mean "found not guilty", it means he was "not found guilty" and these are completely different statements.
Either way, I do think it's a slippery slope for people to be blacklisted when they haven't been found guilty of anything.
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