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Drink the Kool Aid
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![]() Donald Trump won the presidency after holding tight to his core base of voters and slightly expanding his coalition to include several groups that have traditionally been a part of the Democratic base. That finding comes from AP VoteCast, a sweeping survey of more than 120,000 voters nationwide that shows what issues mattered to voters in this election. Trump picked up a small but significant share of Black and Hispanic voters, and made narrow gains with men and women. As Trump chipped away at parts of the Democratic coalition, Vice President Kamala Harris wasn’t able to make enough of her own gains. Trump succeeded in locking down his traditionally older, white base of voters, and he slightly expanded his margins with other groups into a winning coalition. https://fortune.com/2024/11/07/donal...men-americans/ Did this fact surprise you? |
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I knew that the Latino male vote was quite close between Harris and Trump.
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Let’s hope they don’t have family members that are going to be deported.
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Drink the Kool Aid
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Good honest working-class Americans said no to woke and yes to common sense
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Legal migrants are often among the most adverse to illegals. I guess Trump's promises to crack down on it helped him win the demographic?
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Most of them don’t even know how Trump’s tariffs work.
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Obviously for the families that do need to worry about deportation and still voted Trump, probably didn't make the right choice for themselves I feel.
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It was someone that cheerleads for Abortions (while also hesitating on where the cut off for Abortion should be) versus someone that disrespects democracy, has faced convictions, and enforces negative stereotypes onto Mexicans and Haitians. And before that there was a mentally declining Joe Biden. Their candidates were somehow worse than ours.
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Drink the Kool Aid
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Trump credited the result to "the biggest, the broadest, the most unified coalition" in American history.
"They came from all quarters. Union, non-union, African American, Hispanic American," he told a roaring crowd. "We had everybody, and it was beautiful." |
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It’s just a waiting game now. Can’t wait to watch all what they voted for to begin. You play stupid games you win stupid prizes.
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When you have people voting for a convicted felon, and rapist it’s kinda just like, get on with it. You had choice, you chose the wrong one. Now you can deal with it.
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I do believe though that the Democrats (more than Harris herself tbf) just didn't campaign very well in terms of getting meaningful issues across, or with soundbites that's going to get everyone talking and drum up interest. Unfortunately I do think that the general public felt underwhelmed by the Democrats trying to hide essentially behind Trump's unpopularity, rather than coming up with great policies, which the black and latino populations obviously were feeling underwhelmed more than usual too by this strategy. And I hate to say it, but I do honestly believe that some of the Democrat voters on Social Media do not endear most other groups to the party if I'm being brutally honest with you about it Glenn.
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I think that the people that voted for him will live to regret it too, just like they did in 2016.
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![]() Last edited by Mystic Mock; 08-11-2024 at 10:27 AM. |
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Sami Allerdici
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It's his sex appeal.
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Drink the Kool Aid
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To the dismay of Democrats, some of the biggest swings to Trump came from Democratic strongholds like New York and New Jersey.
While Trump didn’t succeed in flipping these states, he did drastically reduce the Democratic margin. New York saw the biggest swing to Trump of nearly twelve percentage points. wow! |
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Schrödinger's Quato
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There's a lot of gum-flapping going on but IMO the fairly clear and simple answer is that the United states is, sadly and tellingly, simply not yet going to vote for a woman as president. I don't know why people are bothering with all the analysis.
The Latino community has a very well known issue with misogyny ("machismo") -- and it's an issue that will, crucially, affect swing states more than others. Most people are not voting on any deep understanding of policy. They're voting with their gut and unfortunately a large proportion of men are simply too cucked for their egos to allow them to vote for a woman as their leader. Sad. |
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the funk of 40,000 years!
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And the dance moves.
![]() As a sidenote, I love how YMCA has gone from being a gay anthem to now being something of a Trump anthem. It's had quite a journey in the popular consciousness. ![]()
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And so so many more innocents
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Sami Allerdici
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No tip tax, no overtime tax won trump the election. Nothing else.
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