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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I am accusing someone that agreed to go on a TV Show of something that I believe that they've displayed in the house, just like every other member on here has done about the Housemates.

That's fair, personally though I think anyone willing to go on a public forum (forum or social) and name-call people on a public forum (TV) should be willing to take it. If we're willing to risk the person we're calling names seeing what we've called them, we should at least be prepared to take that risk for ourselves.

There is also a difference between calling out things people have said and certain behaviour traits and labelling them with the 'ist' based on just a few things we've witnessed them say. And I say that on behalf of all HMs.

This is just a general opinion, and not one I want to level closely at you though Mock as generally I find you a really fair FM and I very much enjoy reading what you have to say about all HMs

On the point of Ali/Marcello. I think you're really simplifying the definition of Misogyny/Misandry by thinking it simply as who someone doesn't get along with people of the opposite gender. Misogyny/Misandry isn't really about that.

You're calling Ali a misandrist because she has clashed with men. Well... she also hasn't clashed with men. She didn't clash with Dean or Nathan or Izzaz. Moreover, I think there is a distinct difference between clashing with men and clashing with men bout their maleness. Ali has clashed with Marcello, Khaled and Segun, but the clashes have been totally unrelated to the fact they are men.

On the flip side, the accusations of Marcello's misogyny aren't linked with him clashing with a woman at all. They're based on things he has said and the subject and context about women and/or their womanhood, which have at times been derogatory or demeaning. Specific thoughts that are in line with how Misogynists think and the types of things they say.

The only time Ali has ever spoken about maleness is to discuss Toxic Masculinity, which as we've discussed in depth before isn't about maleness or men. Her critique hasn't been about men, it's been about certain negative behaviour traits that some men exhibit that is closely linked with them being men.

Ali's discussion with Hanah the other day about men being subject to body shaming and being taken advantage by women in a financial capacity absolutely to not align with the thoughts of a Misandrist.