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[The Daily Telegraph says one of its writers is facing a “Kafkaesque” hate crime inquiry over a year-old social media post. Columnist Allison Pearson says two officers came to her home on Sunday to tell her about the investigation, but were unable to say which post it concerned or who had made the complaint. The paper says that this time last year Pearson was posting a lot about the 7 October attacks on Israel and the subsequent pro-Palestinian protests in London. Essex Police tells it the investigation relates to a now-deleted post and was opened under laws prohibiting material "likely or intended to cause racial hatred".] ![]() Essex Police Opened a case on the Public Order Act 1986 Legit Journalist. I do hope she goes on GMBHD itv today to tell us what the Police do not like about an old tweet............... Something stinks here Last edited by arista; 13-11-2024 at 01:36 AM. |
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Kafkaesque is right. Free speech is dead. It'll be thought crime next, prison for thinking hurty things.
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i don't think there is any time limitation regarding hate speech, so it wouldn't matter if it were 1 year or 10 years. However, you can only be tried based on the laws that existed at the time of the supposed offence and if, as is likely, there are thousands of examples where people wrote similar but were not prosecuted, there will be trouble
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I have to point once again to the pro Palestine marches and ponder why hate speech doesn't appear to apply to those marchers carrying hateful signs and chanting hateful things.
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Alison now Live on GBnewsHD
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[The Daily Telegraph says Essex Police has been
accused of attacking free speech after launching an investigation into one of its columnists, Allison Pearson, for allegedly stirring up racial hatred in a social media post last year. Pearson has said two officers visited her to tell her about the investigation on Sunday, but they would not say which post it concerned or who had made the complaint. Former prime minister Boris Johnson is quoted calling the behaviour of the police "appalling", while shadow home secretary Chris Philp says he is "deeply concerned this will have a chilling effect on free speech and free expression".] ![]() |
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I don't agree with investigating non-crimes, they're non-crimes for a reason.
Having said that, what did Alison Pearson actually tweet? Because I don't know what I should think if I can't even see what her tweet was.
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She probably called a transwoman a man, or something...
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This Witch doesn't burn
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That Tweet was Deleted
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They Bloody Do Public Order Act 1986 They must have printed her text before she Deleted it? Last edited by arista; 15-11-2024 at 02:00 PM. |
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Newsnight BBC2HD
started with this, Great Panel Top Ch5HDNews political reporter there. https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...bate-reignited Last edited by arista; 16-11-2024 at 01:22 AM. |
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One Reporter
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self-oscillating
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Why are the police investigating social media posts when there is real crime on the streets
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Oops, looks like she’s been caught out telling big fat porkies, I for one am shocked that a gutter wrap ‘journalist’ would tell lies to stoke tensions and garner sympathy
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Allison Pearson
@AllisonPearson The story so far. 1. I am not a racist. 2. I didn’t post a racist tweet. 3. My tweet did not incite violence against any protected characteristic. 4. My fairly innocuous tweet was deleted a year ago. 5. Senior lawyers say my tweet does “not come near the threshold for criminal prosecution”. 6. But Essex Police upgraded the accusation from Non-Crime Hate Incident to offence under the Public order Act. Why? 7. Essex Police visited my home but refused to specify either the accusation or the accuser. 8. Under pressure, Essex Police deployed the terrorist-fighting Gold Command to investigate a solitary Welsh journalist 5ft 4 inches who still believes in freedom of speech. Weird, I know. 9. This is all nonsense. Deeply sinister, frightening nonsense and wholly disproportionate police over-reach if you ask me. 10. Last night, I realised I no longer feel safe in my own country. A terrible moment. As Elon Musk said, “This must stop.” It really must. @elonmusk |
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Schrödinger's Quato
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Police record all sorts of non-crime data, there is a good reason for it and it's not to punish people for the non-crimes... it's to establish a trail of events if something WERE to happen.
This is not a new thing and not just about Social Media. For example; if you have a neighbour who is aggressive/insulting, clearly intimidating, but "not actually doing anything" beyond that - you can report this to the police and have it logged, without them going to that person, or anything ever actually happening. You can just ask for it to be logged, get a reference number, and they will never know. The reason for that is, if you're concerned about that person's behaviour, and they DO eventually do something to you (vandalism, assault, etc.) and you need to go to the police - you have a long chain of evidence of their behaviour indicating that this is not "a one off" and so it's more likely to be taken seriously. Otherwise, Mr Neighbour can just insist that they're usually lovely and "just lost their temper this one time" etc etc blah blah. Same thing applies to social media. If you log a long history of people's hateful comments, even if nothing is done or can be done about those comments, if that person DOES escalate into actual real-world violence... you have a folder full of context showing that they weren't just "having a bad day". Not really sure why people are so insistent that they should have the right to mouth off and have no one even take note of it. A little telling isn't it? ![]() |
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I too had visit from police over tweet, says writer
Julie Bindel reveals that officers visited her home over an alleged hate crime after a complaint ‘from a transgender man in the Netherlands’ ![]() One of Britain’s most prominent feminist writers has revealed that police visited her home to warn they were investigating one of her tweets as a “hate crime”. Julie Bindel said she received a knock on the door on a Sunday afternoon from two Scotland Yard officers, who told her a “transgender man” from the Netherlands had reported one of her social media posts. Bindel, a longstanding campaigner on violence against women and critic of gender ideology, said she was not allowed to know which tweet had prompted the investigation, under what category of hate crime it was being investigated, nor the identity of the complainant. The officers asked her to voluntarily attend her local police station to make a statement, she said, but she refused. She described the visit as as “Orwellian” and said detectives “could better use their time investigating rape and domestic violence”. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...earson-bindel/ |
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