[AnnieK]

This has been up since last night and has got over 900,000 signatures. Nothing will happen but interesting to see just how many people have taken time to sign it.

http://https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700143

[Cherie]

Not too popular with the decision making ....the only way is up

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Not too popular with the decision making ....the only way is up

Can't get much worse than the start they've had....

[Oliver_W]

The current government sucks and probably won't last the full term, but nothing's going to change due to a million people signing a petition

[AnnieK]

I think it sends a message though and hopefully the government will take note a bit?

[Black Dagger]

Right wingers sulking and wanting Farage as PM instead. Let them carry on.

Suck it up. They lost. It’s what they said about brexit is it not.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

Right wingers sulking and wanting Farage as PM instead. Let them carry on.

Suck it up. They lost. It’s what they said about brexit is it not.

Very true....

Although I think a lot will be farmers and pensioners too

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

Right wingers sulking and wanting Farage as PM instead. Let them carry on.

Suck it up. They lost. It’s what they said about brexit is it not.

So you're happy with this Government? Just a question? Are people not allowed to want anyone but Keir for Prime Minister. He's a disgusting excuse for a human being.

I'm very sure as Annie said, that large numbers of those who signed will be pensioners and farmers?

Should they 'suck it up'?

[arista]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

This has been up since last night and has got over 900,000 signatures. Nothing will happen but interesting to see just how many people have taken time to sign it.

http://https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700143

You get a Debate in Parliament.


Then What Annie?

[Liam-]

Right wingers and greedy ****s that have been allowed for far too long to get away with being greedy and being treated better than everyone else, can’t stand that there’s people in charge that isn’t bowing at their feet to help them carry on being greedy ****s

And the racists, don’t forget the racists that have also been allowed for too long to get away with their racism

[Black Dagger]

Originally Posted by Kate!

So you're happy with this Government? Just a question? Are people not allowed to want anyone but Keir for Prime Minister. He's a disgusting excuse for a human being.

I'm very sure as Annie said, that large numbers of those who signed will be pensioners and farmers?

Should they 'suck it up'?

I’ve just sat through 14 years of the Tories decimating lives and services. I’m prepared to give a government who have only been in power for 4 months time to undo all their shite yeah x

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by arista

You get a Debate in Parliament.


Then What Annie?

I've no idea.....it only has to be considered for debate so am sure nothing will actually happen.

I've not signed this btw.....was just posting because I saw it and thought it was quite newsworthy

[Black Dagger]

He’s come for wealthy pensioners and wealthy farmers.

When he’s coming to “pile up the bodies” as Boris put it then maybe I will start to be appalled.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

I’ve just sat through 14 years of the Tories decimating lives and services. I’m prepared to give a government who have only been in power for 4 months time to undo all their shite yeah x

Bloody Kier not waving his magic wand and fixing 14 years of destruction in a handful of months, so useless!!!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Labour has given Ł16 MILLION to farmers in Rwanda, to help them grow tea!

[arista]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I've no idea.....it only has to be considered for debate so am sure nothing will actually happen.

I've not signed this btw.....was just posting because I saw it and thought it was quite newsworthy

I will update you


After the Parliament debate
it gets kicked into the long grass.


Yes it is now on Every News
but nothing is going to change


Worthy of a thread
I agree

[arista]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Labour has given Ł16 MILLION to farmers in Rwanda, to help them grow tea!

Too much Cash
that stinks LT

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

He’s come for wealthy pensioners and wealthy farmers.

When he’s coming to “pile up the bodies” as Boris put it then maybe I will start to be appalled.

Wealthy pensioners? Anyone above the threshold for pension credit has lost their winter fuel allowance. So anyone who gets more than just over Ł11k is wealthy? Not in my book.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Elon Musk @elonmusk

The people of Britain have had enough of a tyrannical police state

BREAKING: The petition calling for a new general election in Britain has reached
1 million signatures.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

Right wingers sulking and wanting Farage as PM instead. Let them carry on.

Suck it up. They lost. It’s what they said about brexit is it not.

Spot on is this

I don't agree with some things the government has done so far
Mainly the pensioners issue

I can tolerate most else.

There's no way 14 years of mismanagement and chaos can be sorted in months
This government was elected to restore continuing growth and invest in and build up public services.
Plus to save and protect the NHS.

If in 3 years signs of that are coming to be in place then that is what they'll really be judged on.
However I do also hope that Kemi Badenoch will be able to diffuse the dangerously divisive time bomb of the Reform Party and the odious creep Farage.
Their bigotry, divisive and destructive rhetoric is the very last thing the UK now needs.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

He’s come for wealthy pensioners and wealthy farmers.

When he’s coming to “pile up the bodies” as Boris put it then maybe I will start to be appalled.

Farmers are seldom wealthy. They're only "land rich" in that the land they farm would fetch X amount if they sold it to developers.

Someone inheriting a farm would be inheriting a business where they work a physically demanding job with long hours, and not great pay, so they can feed the nation.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Wealthy pensioners? Anyone above the threshold for pension credit has lost their winter fuel allowance. So anyone who gets more than just over Ł11k is wealthy? Not in my book.

I agree there should have been a kind of outer ring ceiling for the winter fuel payment.
So I'd have preferred anyone on under 15,000 income a year to still get it.

However I've been assisting done pensioners who didn't think they could get it.
Pensioners I know obviously.
I've found you can have over Ł220 stste pension as income, a very small private/works pension.
Can own your own home and have up to Ł10,000 savings.

Then still get pension credit of even just a couple of pound a week.

The Farmers should pay the tax, I've no problem with them being no longer exempt.

However yes, the winter fuel payment is a bad move.
Although I can accept it shouldn't be paid universally to all of pension age.

As for this petition.
Where were these at the time of the cruel bedroom tax, elderly put in danger in care homes during COVID.
Or the hateful.cruel new criteria of assessing the sick and disabled.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

The Farmers should pay the tax, I've no problem with them being no longer exempt.

Why? So they need to sell off their land? So we lose parts of the countryside and deplete our food security?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Why? So they need to sell off their land? So we lose parts of the countryside and deplete our food security?

They haven't properly considered the full package.

Plus Thatcher in the 80s made them exempt from inheritance tax.
This government was elected to try to plug all loopholes in taxation.
So it's right they shouldn't now still be exempt.

I didn't hear Farmers moaning at some pensioners losing the winter fuel allowance.
If anyone else is being penalised, the farmers aren't bothered as long as they can keep exemptions for them in place.

I'm afraid I've little sympathy for the Farmers on this issue.

[bots]

it really all depends on the financial setup of the farm. If the farm is owned by an individual then it will be subject to the normal inheritance tax rules, which makes perfect sense if it is not a working farm. If the farm is setup as a private business then it will be exempt from inheritance task as all private business is