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Old 02-12-2024, 02:20 PM #26
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I understand the wish to overturn incorrect convictions, but that's what the appeals process is designed for. There is no need for pardon from the executive branch
…I mean, surely the whole concept of a pardon is either that justice will not be served for some because of ‘privilege’….or that the legal system is so flawed that pardons need to be addressed for some …either way it’s flipped, it’s an abuse of power that mocks the very laws that person is governing over…
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Worst thing is, Biden will just slope off having never faced questioning on this. Free to attend all the glitz and glamour available for ex presidents.

Noncy old bastard.
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Worst thing is, Biden will just slope off having never faced questioning on this. Free to attend all the glitz and glamour available for ex presidents.

Noncy old bastard.
Many such cases.
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There is a suggestion Biden used it as a massive FU to the Dems for screwing him over the nomination
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The thing is, if when Trump gets in, and they expose that the 2020 election was stolen (which it plainly was) then Biden will be seen as a treasonous, illegitimate President, and his pardon will hold no weight.
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The thing is, if when Trump gets in, and they expose that the 2020 election was stolen (which it plainly was) then Biden will be seen as a treasonous, illegitimate President, and his pardon will hold no weight.

The problem is only Trump followers actually believe that ..


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That's because the large majority of people (Trump voters) can actually see the reality.

Those who still take their news from the legacy media (the Blockbusters video of media) don't see it. Not awake yet.

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There is a suggestion Biden used it as a massive FU to the Dems for screwing him over the nomination
Fair play to him, tbh.

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That's because the large majority of people (Trump voters) can actually see the reality.

Those who still take their news from the legacy media (the Blockbusters video of media) don't see it. Not awake yet.
So why and hear me out on this… why didn’t they “steal” this election then…..
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So why and hear me out on this… why didn’t they “steal” this election then…..
Because they will still think the same. It wasn’t rigged at all, just sadness really
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It's interesting how Biden's victory had five million extra votes compared to 2016 and 2024, which tipped it in his favour.

I'm not saying they were fake votes, as usual the biggest winner this time was probably Voter Apathy. But those extra votes do add fuel to speculation.
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…I mean, surely the whole concept of a pardon is either that justice will not be served for some because of ‘privilege’….or that the legal system is so flawed that pardons need to be addressed for some …either way it’s flipped, it’s an abuse of power that mocks the very laws that person is governing over…
No system is flawless so pardon should be reserved for when the people are so obviously wronged it needs addressing.
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The thing is, if when Trump gets in, and they expose that the 2020 election was stolen (which it plainly was) then Biden will be seen as a treasonous, illegitimate President, and his pardon will hold no weight.
More reddit brain rot that Alf read on Musxk
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No system is flawless so pardon should be reserved for when the people are so obviously wronged it needs addressing.
…oh absolutely, systems are flawed…I probably worded that wrong because I was specifically focused on ‘presidential pardons’ such as this and this isn’t one that addresses anything other than a ‘privilege pardon’…as opposed to any of the (possibly multiple cases…)…of possible justice miscarriages with much new evidence emerging since the original conviction…they are very different beasts of pardon…
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6 months ago, the dems were all saying how noble joe was in allowing justice to be served against his son

What people don't realise is if the trump administration want to go after people, pardoned or not, they will, and nothing can stop them
I doubt that the Trump Administration will care now that Biden's not running for Presidency anymore.
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So why and hear me out on this… why didn’t they “steal” this election then…..
I'm curious about this too.
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I doubt that the Trump Administration will care now that Biden's not running for Presidency anymore.
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