[Mystic Mock]

Chris will win because he is blind.

Strictly has hit a new low this year.

- Dance really badly.

- Crack jokes every single time anyone talks to you.

- And talk about having a disability every single episode.

That's Chris's journey, he has been an awful contestant that has killed the quality of the year in a multitude of different ways, most notably the competition side of the Show has been butchered because people were voting for him before he'd even spoke a word on the Show, absolute joke imo.

And yes I am taking it seriously when I'm watching a Show that I have been a fan of since I was a child, be a waste of time watching even an episode of the series because the public had already decided who they were going to vote for to win well in advance.

Plus it was a waste of time for the other contestants even bothering to rehearse, because the public will just vote for Chris because they want to feel good about themselves for voting for a blind contestant as the winner.

I really do think that there needs to be a discussion from the BBC about if disabled contestants need to be banned off of the Show, nearly every year the judges treat them with kiddie gloves, and most of the time the public aren't much better, unless it's Tasha for some reason.

Imo we should be voting for who we like the best (that could be in a number of different ways) but because someone is blind is unfair to the other contestants, I mean didn't people used to go mad when some viewers used to admit to voting for contestants because they came from their hometown?

As Joey Swoll would say, we need to do better.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Santa Goth

Chris will win because he is blind.

Strictly has hit a new low this year.

- Dance really badly.

- Crack jokes every single time anyone talks to you.

- And talk about having a disability every single episode.

That's Chris's journey, he has been an awful contestant that has killed the quality of the year in a multitude of different ways, most notably the competition side of the Show has been butchered because people were voting for him before he'd even spoke a word on the Show, absolute joke imo.

And yes I am taking it seriously when I'm watching a Show that I have been a fan of since I was a child, be a waste of time watching even an episode of the series because the public had already decided who they were going to vote for to win well in advance.

Plus it was a waste of time for the other contestants even bothering to rehearse, because the public will just vote for Chris because they want to feel good about themselves for voting for a blind contestant as the winner.

I really do think that there needs to be a discussion from the BBC about if disabled contestants need to be banned off of the Show, nearly every year the judges treat them with kiddie gloves, and most of the time the public aren't much better, unless it's Tasha for some reason.

Imo we should be voting for who we like the best (that could be in a number of different ways) but because someone is blind is unfair to the other contestants, I mean didn't people used to go mad when some viewers used to admit to voting for contestants because they came from their hometown?

As Joey Swoll would say, we need to do better.

Don't agree at all.

I thought he''d last a couple of weeks, then I saw him dance. His footwork is perfect. If he wins, and there's no guarantee he will, he will have won on merit. Tasha is a lovely dancer and she should be, having been previously trained. That's what an unfair advantage is and that's why she won't win. Rose Ayling Ellis won not because she was deaf, but because she learned to dance. If Chris wins it will be for the same reason. Personally, I don't think he will, but he definitely deserves to be in the final.

People talk about his disability because it must be so difficult to teach someone to dance who can't see. Where would you start? He's an inspiration.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Livia

Don't agree at all.

I thought he''d last a couple of weeks, then I saw him dance. His footwork is perfect. If he wins, and there's no guarantee he will, he will have won on merit. Tasha is a lovely dancer and she should be, having been previously trained. That's what an unfair advantage is and that's why she won't win. Rose Ayling Ellis won not because she was deaf, but because she learned to dance. If Chris wins it will be for the same reason. Personally, I don't think he will, but he definitely deserves to be in the final.

People talk about his disability because it must be so difficult to teach someone to dance who can't see. Where would you start? He's an inspiration.

I am telling you now that if Chris could see, he would be lucky to make the top 8.

Chris is the one with the unfair advantage where it counts, because the others basically don't have the same struggles as Chris they're not getting as many votes, and that they have to work twice as hard to earn half of the praise that Chris is receiving just for appearing on the Show, that's the rest of line-up being at a disadvantage.

And Tasha can't hear the Music, which I know was a big thing to praise Rose for in her year, so why is the same praise not being given to Tasha? Dance experience or not she is suffering a disability in a very pivotal area of dancing, which is timing.

And all of my favourites have left the competition so I have no stake in this anymore.

I just want to see people vote for who they genuinely like the best, which I feel is not the case for some of the general public this series, or the year that Rose won either.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Santa Goth

I am telling you now that if Chris could see, he would be lucky to make the top 8.

Chris is the one with the unfair advantage where it counts, because the others basically don't have the same struggles as Chris they're not getting as many votes, and that they have to work twice as hard to earn half of the praise that Chris is receiving just for appearing on the Show, that's the rest of line-up being at a disadvantage.

And Tasha can't hear the Music, which I know was a big thing to praise Rose for in her year, so why is the same praise not being given to Tasha? Dance experience or not she is suffering a disability in a very pivotal area of dancing, which is timing.

And all of my favourites have left the competition so I have no stake in this anymore.

I just want to see people vote for who they genuinely like the best, which I feel is not the case for some of the general public this series, or the year that Rose won either.

If Chris could see he would be an incredible dancer.

Tasha CAN hear the music, she has a cochlea implant. Even if she didn't she could feel the beat and vibrations.

You have no control over who people vote for or why. The Chris bashing is beneath you.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Livia

If Chris could see he would be an incredible dancer.

Tasha CAN hear the music, she has a cochlea implant. Even if she didn't she could feel the beat and vibrations.

You have no control over who people vote for or why. The Chris bashing is beneath you.

I have no control over people vote for I agree with you on that.

I personally though don't want the Show descending into just voting for contestants based on disability reasons, and I feel that is fair to say without being told that "it's beneath me" to point it out.

I have even had people on Facebook and this very Forum basically admitting that they are voting for Chris because of him being blind, that to me kills discussion on the Forums and Social Media, plus it kills any element of Chris being in any danger in the vote, because some (not all) of his fanbase are freely admitting that dance technique, choreography, Music selection, and even his personality are not at the top of their agenda as to why they're voting for him.

That to me I do have a problem with as it goes against the spirit of the Show imo, and I feel like even the people that genuinely do like Chris the best should be able to see where I'm coming from here.

And I agree that Chris would be a much better dancer if he could see, as obviously he'd visually be able to see where he needs to improve.

But that unfortunately isn't the Chris that we can judge as it's a hypothetical conjured up in people's minds, it isn't reality.

I know that I'm being blunt with my opinion (probably because I personally don't even like how Chris has conducted himself on the Show if I'm being honest) where as I actually did like Rose as a person, which does soften the blow a little bit from my perspective.

But for me I honestly don't care about anyone that likes Chris the best because they just like his personality or dances or anything that's actually him contributing something to the series in some way, heck even something as shallow as someone fancying him, I don't care.

I am though very sensitive to someone winning because they have a disability or a sob story or because they're from a big City/hometown advantage, that to me I personally feel are really weak reasons to support someone, and I will always feel that way if I feel like anyone is doing that.

If you or anyone else thinks that I'm out of order for speaking like I am then that's obviously your right to feel that way, but I am going to stand up for the integrity of the competition and that people shouldn't be feeling like they have to support the disabled contestants on Strictly.

And yes, I do feel like that there is pressure every single year to say nice things about the disabled contestants on Strictly, otherwise you get seen as a bad person for not liking/supporting them in some circles within the fandom, it's a toxic mindset that is getting increasingly worse imo.

And I know that I technically am not supposed to be negative about fanbases on here, but I honestly have reached breaking point with this mindset, especially considering Rose's season wasn't that long ago.