[joeysteele]

It's Trump and Vance who look the worse in this.
Despicable way to conduct this serious issue.

I think myself it was planned for whatever reason who knows, in that paranoid, delusional but dangerous mind of Trump.
Vance however is one of the most smug and ignorant individuals, vile.

[Glenn.]

Like a pair of school bullies.

People like this should not be allowed to engage in grown up talk.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Vances smug face at end of the conference spoke volumes, these people are supposed to have Christian values as well I think the question from the reporter about not wearing a suit was definately staged, why would you waste a question at such an important point in history on that....Zelenksy gave it back to him with both barrels....class

oh whadda you know the guy concerned about clothes is Marjorie Taylor Greens boyfriend

[bots]

Reuters and the associated press were banned from attending the press conference, but russian media was allowed in. The whole thing was obviously staged

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

It's Trump and Vance who look the worse in this.
Despicable way to conduct this serious issue.

I think myself it was planned for whatever reason who knows, in that paranoid, delusional but dangerous mind of Trump.
Vance however is one of the most smug and ignorant individuals, vile.

JD Vance
has helped cause this mess.
Sadly, the Ukraine War is now carrying on.


Amazing Trump warned him of WW3.


I hope Zelensky goes back,
to see Trump.
He should go in with his assistants.



At least President Trump
has stated he would like Zelensky to return

[arista]

Around 3 Hours,
Zelensky was in the White House.

Trump wanted a Ceasefire,
Zelensky said "No."


This Sunday
He will be in London
meeting PM Starmer.
And other Visitors

A Euro Summit
no less.

[Ammi]

…the irony and hypocrisy of this staged farce was Trump exclaiming that Zelensky was in no position to dictate on HIS country and how the heck did he very dare…while just a few moments before, that’s exactly what Zelensky had tried to say to Vance….had he ever visited Ukraine, was he in a position to make decisions about Ukraine, a country that’s been trying to defend against invasion for many years…Trump and Vance offended because Zelensky didn’t bow down enough or wear a pleasing enough blouse…Zelensky offended because of the many, many lives that have been taken in his country and the blood that has been shed ….

[DrunkerThanMoses]

So that one twat reporter tries to critcise how Zelensky dresses, but is fine with **** musk dressing like a twat.

**** them all. I hate this world right now.

[Nicky91]

of course this war will carry on


until Putin and Lukashenko are dead

[Ammi]

…in contrast, Starmer did get measured up for and picked up his White House uniform on the way in…

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…in contrast, Starmer did get measured up for and picked up his White House uniform on the way in…

Sure
But PM Starmer is not in a Deadly War.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…the irony and hypocrisy of this staged farce was Trump exclaiming that Zelensky was in no position to dictate on HIS country and how the heck did he very dare…while just a few moments before, that’s exactly what Zelensky had tried to say to Vance….had he ever visited Ukraine, was he in a position to make decisions about Ukraine, a country that’s been trying to defend against invasion for many years…Trump and Vance offended because Zelensky didn’t bow down enough or wear a pleasing enough blouse…Zelensky offended because of the many, many lives that have been taken in his country and the blood that has been shed ….

It was more than likely planned to get this outcome.
With near no real condemnation of Russia invading in the first place.
This was likely staged by Trump and Vance for the Russian benefit.

Putin and Russia will be the only serious people celebrating this despicable treatment of a visiting head of State of another Country.

Smudgie said Trump was unhinged.
I agree.
HE, Trump is the dangerous one in this now in my view.
I think he's untrustworthy and frankly he's just more rambling in speeches now.

The sight of our PM now too, running up his backside and the Royals lauding over him with an invite to THIS Country again for a STATE visit.
Absolutely sickening.

Plus where is Boris Johnson, just leaving his great friend Zelensky out in the cold now.
He was never quiet before.
What's his view of this staged humiliation of Zelensky by Vance and Trump.
President Zelensky who Johnson was supposedly solidly always with, NO MATTER WHAT.

[arista]

Trump got Angry.

That is all

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

Sure
But PM Starmer is not in a Deadly War.


Not Contrast

…well exactly…they all have the privilege of being able to consider what they’ll wear for the occasion/visit/meeting while Zelensky’s attention has been taken up for quite some time with his people’s lives and homes been taken and the bloodshed that Putin has caused in the streets of Ukraine…a very staged and contrived provocative question and comment…

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

Trump got Angry.

That is all

….first rule of a great negotiator/diplomat/world leader….get angry and react to that anger…which leads to being none of those bolted things…that is all…

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

It was more than likely planned to get this outcome.
With near no real condemnation of Russia invading in the first place.
This was likely staged by Trump and Vance for the Russian benefit.

Putin and Russia will be the only serious people celebrating this despicable treatment of a visiting head of State of another Country.

Smudgie said Trump was unhinged.
I agree.
HE, Trump is the dangerous one in this now in my view.
I think he's untrustworthy and frankly he's just more rambling in speeches now.

The sight of our PM now too, running up his backside and the Royals lauding over him with an invite to THIS Country again for a STATE visit.
Absolutely sickening.

Plus where is Boris Johnson, just leaving his great friend Zelensky out in the cold now.
He was never quiet before.
What's his view of this staged humiliation of Zelensky by Vance and Trump.
President Zelensky who Johnson was supposedly solidly always with, NO MATTER WHAT.

….well, the only thing is for me….that may be true but whatever Trump is…?….long may he reign because the alternative is JD Vance, who imo is so much more dangerous…

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

….first rule of a great negotiator/diplomat/world leader….get angry and react to that anger…which leads to being none of those bolted things…that is all…

Yes
He should speak his own language
maybe that will help

[arista]

And yes JD Vance
started the Fight

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes
He should speak his own language
maybe that will help

…Trump’s own language is bully, that doesn’t generally help for a more settled world…

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Trump got Angry.

That is all

No, he took up from where Vance started this.
Plus it looked like they both enjoyed every minute to set out to humiliate publicly a guest, who was the visiting head of another Country.
It's not just getting angry.
That's despicable.

They wanted this, Trump could have closed the broadcasting of it and took it to private quarters.
He did not.
It's more like this is what he wanted to take place.

This isn't leadership, a leader should talk to all leaders in a dignified and respectful way.

How on earth can anyone admire Trump after watching this.
Plus his waste of space assistant Vance.
This was despicable.
Nothing like how a so called leader of a major Nation should act.

He got angry you say, so that excuses all bad behaviour.
Never, not to me.
Disgraceful.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ammi

….well, the only thing is for me….that may be true but whatever Trump is…?….long may he reign because the alternative is JD Vance, who imo is so much more dangerous…

Vance is vile, absolutely vile.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…Trump’s own language is bully, that doesn’t generally help for a more settled world…

Trump will Not Change.

So Zelensky needs to speak with a Translator

[arista]

Although Euro Leaders
dissed Trump

Sly PM Starmer
stayed out of it.

A member of his staff spoke
instead

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

Trump will Not Change.

So Zelensky needs to speak with a Translator

…no translation was needed to understand Zelensky attempting to explain his country to the two people in the room who were trying to disregard it …Ukraine and its leader completely understand the language of bullying…/…it’s what their life has been for many years …if a translator is what’s required then it would be the requirement of the US administration in that no peace or way forward is going to be achieved by attempting bullying tactics on a long term victim of bullying…listening is also an important part of talking which is what Trump and Vance didn’t show at all in that ‘meeting’…the translation of Zelensky in trying to explain that was very understandable and their response…?…to end the meeting and dismiss him from the White House…if a translator is needed then it’s not for Zelensky….

[bots]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…in contrast, Starmer did get measured up for and picked up his White House uniform on the way in…

Zelenskyy wears what he does on purpose. It's symbolic in that he is standing with his people fighting on the front line. No-one said anything to Musk when he turned up in jeans wearing a maga hat a couple of days before

It was all part of the lets humiliate and intimidate the man and look good to the boss, Putin