[Alf]

Here is the full 50-minute conversation between President Trump and President Zelensky.

There are a lot of politicians claiming Zelensky was "ambushed."

There was a full 40 minutes of dialogue before the "fireworks" started.

The president insisted throughout the first 40 minutes that he was focused on peace.

Zelensky responded by strongly pushing back on a ceasefire with Russia and demanded that Putin pay for the entire war.

JD Vance jumps in at the 40-minute mark to clarify the difference between Trump and Biden and their approach to the war.

This apparently ticked off Zelensky which is when the fireworks started.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Alf

Here is the full 50-minute conversation between President Trump and President Zelensky.

There are a lot of politicians claiming Zelensky was "ambushed."

There was a full 40 minutes of dialogue before the "fireworks" started.

The president insisted throughout the first 40 minutes that he was focused on peace.

Zelensky responded by strongly pushing back on a ceasefire with Russia and demanded that Putin pay for the entire war.

JD Vance jumps in at the 40-minute mark to clarify the difference between Trump and Biden and their approach to the war.

This apparently ticked off Zelensky which is when the fireworks started.

No, what Zelenskyy was saying was that Putin could not be trusted, in 2012 he signed along with Merkel, Macron and Putin a ceasefire deal and then in 2014 Putin invaded Crimea, pointless going for a ceasefire with no guarantees .....Putin would just rearm and go again in a few years time ...I have not heard one word of criticism towards Putin with regard to the invasion of Ukraine, dont you think that is odd for someone who says he is not taking sides? yet Trump has plenty to say about Zelenskyy...he is a dictator, unelected, a comedian....etc maybe if you watched for yourself and wrote your own thoughts rather than copying and pasting what someone put on X it would be better

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Cherie

No, what Zelenskyy was saying was that Putin could not be trusted, in 2012 he signed along with Merkel, Macron and Putin a ceasefire deal and then in 2014 Putin invaded Crimea, pointless going for a ceasefire with no guarantees .....Putin would just rearm and go again in a few years time ...I have not heard one word of criticism towards Putin with regard to the invasion of Ukraine, dont you think that is odd for someone who says he is not taking sides? yet Trump has plenty to say about Zelenskyy...he is a dictator, unelected, a comedian....etc maybe if you watched for yourself and wrote your own thoughts rather than copying and pasting what someone put on X it would be better

Where does your knowledge on all this come from?

Surely you must have listened to people's opinions to form your own opinion?

So that would be a like to copying a pasting other people's opinions, wouldn't it.

Sorry, but I'm no expert on this, I know as much as you about what's actually really going on, which is nothing.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Alf

Where does your knowledge on all this come from?

Surely you must have listened to people's opinions to form your own opinion?

So that would be a like to copying a pasting other people's opinions, wouldn't it.

Sorry, but I'm no expert on this, I know as much as you about what's actually really going on, which is nothing.

No I formed an opinion from watching the whole thing unfold live..... ?