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Originally Posted by Livia

Did anyone ever think they'd see, in their lifetime, the USA supporting Russia in an illegal war? In the next four years Trump and Vance are going to do irreparable damage to the image and status of the USA on the world stage. I hope Europe generally and Ukraine in particular, tell Trump and Vance to go **** themselves.

the problem is that even if there is a "friendly" president elected next time, no-one will ever trust their long term future to america again. That is irreversible now