[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

Maybe in part, I think the clues on motivation lie more in the content of the leak than the simple fact that a leak occurred; there was built-in plausible deniability for the main players ("Trump knew nothing about any of this" for example) and "interestingly" plenty of rhetoric in "leaked" material dogwhistling about the strength of the US and apparent-weakness of Europe.

What I think is "worrying" (though not really in the sense that it's entirely unsurprising at this point) is that because I don't believe for a second that the use of unsecured channels was due to incompetence or negligence, and the risk/likelihood of foreign powers (China/Russia) also being able to intercept these communications regardless of "press leaking"... one has to assume that said foreign powers were already (knowingly) aware of any information or plans contained in those messages.

Basically I see an awful low of smoke and mirrors/play acting for public consumption, and that seems more and more obvious across politics these days. Perhaps it was always the way, of course. It's just becoming blatant to the extent that I think the public/support bases themselves actively play along. Really bizarre times.

…(…thank you for the response, I appreciate it…)…strangely I was just thinking a lot recently myself about whether politics has always been this way….because it does as you say, feel like bizarre times but then in catching up with some of the Black Mirror stories atm…they feel uncomfortably close to real life or what could be, you know…real life is getting uncomfortably lose to them, I don’t know which way around it is…(…I’m thinking…)…that it probably has always been that way but it’s just that media and information has changed so much, it’s like on instant dial up …I mean, things like the expenses scandal for instance and how long until the public had any knowledge of most of it in comparison to now and public knowledge is made instant through a combination of SM and mainstream media…but they’re not working with each other, they’re completely different species and they’re competing against each other…and fact over the years has become more rare but less important because it’s more just what they can put out there and create mass belief in…