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Originally Posted by Maru

Supposedly one of the L&L audience members said that Jojo asked them if they'd aired what he had said to her. Including the whole thing that happened where he got upset when Chris gave him a look. She put her fist up into the air and seemed very happy about it being aired. Interpret of that what you will.

I can see where the comments can be taken a poor way by some people. I certainly didn't like her bragging he'd "gone off the rails on her in the past" and I think the use of "rope" was too open ended (no pun intended). That is, the some people who receive the comments, not random strangers on the internet who haven't suffered any real change to their day or even just people who are getting offended on other people's behalf for a hobby. Like collective empathy or collected consciousness is actually real (it's not...).

Being offended has become like a game of chess. If one can find "problematic" language or flaws in the other person, collect them in a bag, it's easy enough to rearrange the parts to fit certain conclusions that such and such person clearly has certain intentions... that's how smearing works. The internet is the ideal playground for picking up this skill.

My experience has been if someone was looking to sexual harass or want an encounter, they almost always do it when the other person felt most isolated (so usually not in a group setting). They're also not hiding it and the behavior will become more brazen & uncomfortable the more time spent. A predator likes to cause fear in the other person as that's a big part of the appeal. I'm very comfortable around men and have almost never had a problem with jokes, but those men also tended to treat me more like a sibling. But there wasn't any love bombing (massive red flag) and that doesn't mean they can't get the wrong idea either from interactions, but it's not the same as wanting to r*** another person...

I find it hard to believe Mickey would announce those desires on television or in front of production staff who would have the means to call for assistance should they felt it come become a real safety problem. In the UK maybe(?) they might've considered his comments as evidence of a number of crimes. Here it would've just been seen as a badly delivered joke and highly inappropriate. (So they had the advantage to call if it were necessary)

Yes I also believe it was a joke, as I said, I just really don’t think there is a place for those sorts of jokes anymore. This isn’t the 50s, men are far more emotionally intelligent with each generation that passes, by and large, and women are no longer property.

Comedy is of course extremely subjective but there isn’t anything clever about a 70 year old man joking to a 21 year lesbian that he’ll tie her up and have sex with her to change her sexuality - it’s bottom of the barrel kind of humour and for the most part is looked on by society as embarrassing and outdated thankfully.

There is absolutely a place for clever close-to-the-bone ‘offensive’ humour in society, but this was not it, it was just… grim.