[arista]

[Beso]

Originally Posted by arista

The Labour, make believe bollox.

[Cal.]

They want an insurance based NHS? PISS OFF!

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cal.

They want an insurance based NHS? PISS OFF!

Cal YOU ARE WRONG
Thats out of date talk.

Dr. David Bull updated Reform UK
as NHS Free


You must get updated
stop living in the past

[Cal.]

Originally Posted by arista

Cal YOU ARE WRONG
Thats out of date talk.

Dr. David Bull updated Reform UK
as NHS Free


You must get updated
stop living in the past

Oh right well I saw it on Facebook.

Anyway - Nigel won’t win the GE! He couldn’t even win the I’m a celebrity campmate jungle show

[arista]

"I saw it on Facebook. "


OK easy to get sent into the wrong direction.


It is good, Dr. David Bull of Reform UK
was on the BBC Live panel.
He had to correct Labour MP's

So Cal you are not alone

[arista]

"Nigel won’t win the GE!"


Yes, they need 400 more MP's

So it would mean Conservatives Dead
Reform UK alive

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Cal YOU ARE WRONG
Thats out of date talk.

Dr. David Bull updated Reform UK
as NHS Free


You must get updated
stop living in the past

Actually he didn't, he indicated a possible alteration to thinking but .......

It is still the thinking of Reform to create a health service more based on private health insurance on the USA style.
Trump is still it seems determined to want the NHS made part of any trading deal.
Which he wants to benefit USA companies.

Farage has leanings to a more French system but the thinking of Reform is NOT to have a health service funded only by taxpayers.
Still favouring a USA style system.

If Reform were in government now, negotiating a trade deal with Trump in the USA..
Would you bet your house and savings on them NOT bowing down to Trump's demands for that change to the NHS.
Because I certainly wouldn't.
Farage as PM would be capitulating and more running up Trump's backside than Starmer currently is.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by bots

We just don’t have the level of crazies here that they do in other countries. People are largely middle of the road in politics. Immigration is an issue, I just don’t believe for a moment that reform can fix it. We don’t have prison space, we don’t have id cards, we can’t sink their boats

No-one wants to sink boats. They want to turn them around, or drop off the migrants back in France.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Actually he didn't, he indicated a possible alteration to thinking but .......

It is still the thinking of Reform to create a health service more based on private health insurance on the USA style.
Trump is still it seems determined to want the NHS made part of any trading deal.
Which he wants to benefit USA companies.

Farage has leanings to a more French system but the thinking of Reform is NOT to have a health service funded only by taxpayers.
Still favouring a USA style system.

If Reform were in government now, negotiating a trade deal with Trump in the USA..
Would you bet your house and savings on them NOT bowing down to Trump's demands for that change to the NHS.
Because I certainly wouldn't.
Farage as PM would be capitulating and more running up Trump's backside than Starmer currently is.

Joey he Confirmed NHS Free

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Joey he Confirmed NHS Free

He's just a Reform member arista.
He's not a Reform MP he was beaten in last year's election.

He WAS a deputy leader, until last year but once Farage took the leadership over from Tice as leader then Tice became deputy leader
Bull was then replaced by Tice.

He doesn't decide any policy now as you well know.
Would you bet your house and savings on Farage and Reform if they were in power now, not giving in to demands from Trump on OUR NHS in order to get the trade deal from him?
Because I say again, I certainly wouldn't.
I couldn't see Farage ever saying NO to Trump on just about anything.

It's clear as day disappointingly even now fur me with Labour
That what the representatives of Parties say is not what they mean when in power.
That's been so with the Conservatives and also now with Labour.
It won't be any different from Reform under Farage either.

[arista]

"He's not"

Yes but as a Medical Doctor
he is in charge of the Medical Direction of Reform UK

Which is a good thing.


NHS Free under Reform UK

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

"He's not"

Yes but as a Medical Doctor
he is in charge of the Medical Direction of Reform UK

Which is a good thing.


NHS Free under Reform UK

I'll.leave you u in your more possibly cloud cuckoo land.
If YOU really believe that
I see you still don't say you'd bet your house and savings on it though.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I'll.leave you u in your more possibly cloud cuckoo land.
If YOU really believe that
I see you still don't say you'd bet your house and savings on it though.

It is important Reform UK
has said NHS Free
is part of their future.


I follow every Political Party

[Livia]

Originally Posted by arista

LOL... They think British people are gullible and slow, don't they. I think Labour despises British people in general, the working class in particular and they think that we'll fall for anything.

[arista]

New York Times:

[News Analysis: Nigel Farage, the leader of the
right-wing populist party, Reform UK,
consolidated his reputation as Britain’s
foremost political disrupter by making gains
in local elections on Thursday.
He may also have blown a hole
in the country’s two-party political system.]

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

LOL... They think British people are gullible and slow, don't they. I think Labour despises British people in general, the working class in particular and they think that we'll fall for anything.

Yes PM Starmer
thinks he can move faster?


But he should have said
That at the start.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

It is important Reform UK
has said NHS Free
is part of their future.


I follow every Political Party

So do I arista.
As you well know.

Look, Reform have solidly said the NHS has to change from it's core set up from being created.

There's been lots of re-organisation of it over the decades but never on part of it's core principle.
Which is, the NHS being FREE for ALL, at the point of need, through the need until no longer needed.

That's the only thing that hasn't changed.
So if Reform are saying it has to be changed from its core principle.
It's obvious the only core principle left is that's free for all at the point of need.

If Bull, ( seemingly a very appropriate name), is trying to say the core principle has to be changed..
It cannot be that it is to remain free for all at the point of need AND all through the need.

You can be fooled all you wish to be but I'm certainly not.
Farage especially with his hero worshipping of Trump certainly, in my view, shouldn't be trusted ever with our NHS.
The USA system of healthcare is absolutely awful.

It's interesting still though, you will not say you would bet your house and savings on Reform NOT creating a health service more in line with the USA.
I repeat again, I'd bet on them doing exactly that.

[Oliver_W]

I doubt many people would mind if it was changed to "free for all UK citizens" instead of "free for all" .

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Oh right well I saw it on Facebook.

Anyway - Nigel won’t win the GE! He couldn’t even win the I’m a celebrity campmate jungle show

Yeah, that's exactly the same type of thing.

[Kate!]

Nigel is warm and personable. He's no scumbag Starmer. Labour are a bloody affront to mankind.

[arista]

"worshipping of Trump"

Joey
not so much now.
It has been reported on the news

[Cal.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Yeah, that's exactly the same type of thing.

Well he couldn’t win the show! How’s he gonna win the election!

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Well he couldn’t win the show! How’s he gonna win the election!

What a ridiculous question.

[Cherie]

Ministers are hoping a cut in interest rates will put more money in peoples pockets...

surely it will put less, anyone with half a brain cell will have a fixed rate and any savers will as usual get less ....