[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Beso

Was he remanded, Cherie?

Yes

[Cherie]

https://www.skysports.com/football/n...rious-offences

[Beso]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Yes

Shocking.

[arista]

[Doyle made no indications
of pleas after the charges were read to the court.

He stood with his hands clasped and nodded
as he was remanded in custody.]


Taken from the new Sky News Link

Thanks, Cherie

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Beso

Shocking.

He is facing serious offences
Plus if he was let out the press would be at his door 24/7

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

He is facing serious offences
Plus if he was let out the press would be at his door 24/7

Plus be probably wouldn’t make it through the night


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[Quantum Boy]

Originally Posted by Beso

The police failed to mention that he was actually dragged from the car and given a few punches b4 the police intervened...you see this in the clip that shows the police standing aimlessly by as the car is set upon once it stops.

At the end of the day though, while the vigilante "justice" shouldn't have happened, that part isn't really relevant to the charges against him... he shouldn't have been there at all... just by being there at all (if he followed an ambulance he blatantly knew he wasn't meant to be driving there) he was driving recklessly whether he was drunk or high or not and regardless of what happened in the aftermath. The charges are more than deserved.

All I'd add is that if they can identify any of the people punching/kicking/attacking the car, ESPECIALLY before it ended up ploughing into more people, all of those people should also be arrested and charged because their actions contributed to the outcome and they share some responsibility.

As do the organisers, IMO, at the very least there should be resignations of those responsible for crowd safety. Mistakes were made no matter how you cut it.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

At the end of the day though, while the vigilante "justice" shouldn't have happened, that part isn't really relevant to the charges against him... he shouldn't have been there at all... just by being there at all (if he followed an ambulance he blatantly knew he wasn't meant to be driving there) he was driving recklessly whether he was drunk or high or not and regardless of what happened in the aftermath. The charges are more than deserved.

All I'd add is that if they can identify any of the people punching/kicking/attacking the car, ESPECIALLY before it ended up ploughing into more people, all of those people should also be arrested and charged because their actions contributed to the outcome and they share some responsibility.

As do the organisers, IMO, at the very least there should be resignations of those responsible for crowd safety. Mistakes were made no matter how you cut it.

I would add that if the street he was originally driving on was open to cars, that he probably followed the ambulance and was perhaps not aware it was closed off, at the very least there must have been someone at the barrier, and he was driving slowly as people were taking pictures yet no police person ran towards him, we are always told they run towards danger yet no one appears to have even noticed him driving and honking his horn, its pretty much a **** show

[Beso]

Court drawing of suspect.

https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/...arade-10226709

[Beso]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

He is facing serious offences
Plus if he was let out the press would be at his door 24/7

Like they won't be already!

[arista]

Originally Posted by Beso

Court drawing of suspect.

https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/...arade-10226709

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

At the end of the day though, while the vigilante "justice" shouldn't have happened, that part isn't really relevant to the charges against him... he shouldn't have been there at all... just by being there at all (if he followed an ambulance he blatantly knew he wasn't meant to be driving there) he was driving recklessly whether he was drunk or high or not and regardless of what happened in the aftermath. The charges are more than deserved.

All I'd add is that if they can identify any of the people punching/kicking/attacking the car, ESPECIALLY before it ended up ploughing into more people, all of those people should also be arrested and charged because their actions contributed to the outcome and they share some responsibility.

As do the organisers, IMO, at the very least there should be resignations of those responsible for crowd safety. Mistakes were made no matter how you cut it.

Checks time...


Yea TS, all of that is blatantly obvious. Yet the police brought out a timeline of events. They just missed that bit out. I think it's relevant, and it shows the actions he will claim he was fleeing from.

[arista]

In Court again on 14th of August
for a pre-trial hearing



His Trial is to go to court
28th November 2026 (can be up to 4 weeks)


He was told possible more Charges.

His Legal Team asked for another Court
to be used away from Liverpool.



Ch4HDnews. Last night

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

At the end of the day though, while the vigilante "justice" shouldn't have happened, that part isn't really relevant to the charges against him... he shouldn't have been there at all... just by being there at all (if he followed an ambulance he blatantly knew he wasn't meant to be driving there) he was driving recklessly whether he was drunk or high or not and regardless of what happened in the aftermath. The charges are more than deserved.

All I'd add is that if they can identify any of the people punching/kicking/attacking the car, ESPECIALLY before it ended up ploughing into more people, all of those people should also be arrested and charged because their actions contributed to the outcome and they share some responsibility.

As do the organisers, IMO, at the very least there should be resignations of those responsible for crowd safety. Mistakes were made no matter how you cut it.

I agree with your points tbh.

[Ammi]

…it would be good to have an update on some of the victim’s injuries/condition…I think there are still 7 in hospital and including children…although no injuries were life threatening, some were reported as life changing…

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…it would be good to have an update on some of the victim’s injuries/condition…I think there are still 7 in hospital and including children…although no injuries were life threatening, some were reported as life changing…

Yes, the Child that
was stuck under his car.


Horrible

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes, the Child that
was stuck under his car.


Horrible

…there are huge differences with minimum and maximum sentences for the charges so far which will be tried in court…(…there may be other charges added…)…but the severity of injuries in how life changing and the ages of the victims etc will apparently all have a huge bearing on the sentencing…

[MTVN]

I'm not sure if any injuries are life changing? I've only seen reports of them being serious which hopefully means a full recovery is possible

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I'm not sure if any injuries are life changing? I've only seen reports of them being serious which hopefully means a full recovery is possible

…yeah I’ve just looked at some of the articles and you’re correct, it does state some as serious as opposed to life changing, which I had thought that I’d read in some reports…I was looking at the vast differences in potential minimum and maximum sentences which could happen with this case and severity of injuries/age of the victims etc would all be a much considered factor…also, the impact on Paul Doyle himself and his remorse and statements from the victims and their families also…that’s why there is no one size fits all with the law and sentencing, isn’t it…so much to consider in specific cases…

[bots]

I will be surprised if he lives long enough to stand trial

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bots

I will be surprised if he lives long enough to stand trial

…isn’t that the reason that the judge gave for remanding him in custody…for his own safety…?…

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bots

I will be surprised if he lives long enough to stand trial

…sorry, do you mean…takes his own life…?…

[arista]

Originally Posted by bots

I will be surprised if he lives long enough to stand trial

Yes could be possible