[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

There has to be some consistency in how a character's personality and dynamics work within a story, otherwise you don't really have the character anymore.

That's writing 101.

Based on how similar 11 was to 12, and either of them were to 13?

They were all pretty different, apart from the core "Doctorish" Values.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

There has to be some consistency in how a character's personality and dynamics work within a story, otherwise you don't really have the character anymore.

That's writing 101.

For anything other than Dr. Who maybe

[Liam-]

Anybody who has ever watched Who consistently, especially since the rebirth, knows that that the doctor is essentially simultaneously bisexual and asexual at any given time, this theory that he’s suddenly been turned gay is frankly ridiculous

[Crimson Dynamo]

No wonder this franchise is in the mud

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Anybody who has ever watched Who consistently, especially since the rebirth, knows that that the doctor is essentially simultaneously bisexual and asexual at any given time, this theory that he’s suddenly been turned gay is frankly ridiculous

Exactly. In tragically online terminology, Doc has long been "biromantic acesexual."

And even if one incarnation has a preferential leaning for one gender, there's more to a character than that.

(Posted in 2025)

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Anybody who has ever watched Who consistently, especially since the rebirth, knows that that the doctor is essentially simultaneously bisexual and asexual at any given time, this theory that he’s suddenly been turned gay is frankly ridiculous

No one cared about that until a black gay man was the lead.

And the only people who are triggered by it, don’t even watch it.

[Barry.]

Dr Who has been crap for a while, it had nothing to do with the female doctor or black doctor. They need to think about the next series carefully and make the writing better

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Liam-

For anything other than Dr. Who maybe

Including Doctor Who.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Based on how similar 11 was to 12, and either of them were to 13?

They were all pretty different, apart from the core "Doctorish" Values.

But controversially Doctor Who has had problems for a very long time.

Long before Jodie Whittaker came along, and it's due to the Show lacking consistency in it's writing, which is important to every TV Show out there.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Anybody who has ever watched Who consistently, especially since the rebirth, knows that that the doctor is essentially simultaneously bisexual and asexual at any given time, this theory that he’s suddenly been turned gay is frankly ridiculous

Who was Christopher Eccleston's main love interest?

Who was David Tennant's main love interest?

If I'm not mistaken in the early episodes of the Matt Smith era they did have him and Amy Pond flirting with each other, until admittedly Moffat backed away from the idea.

It's simply not true what you're saying.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Barry.

Dr Who has been crap for a while, it had nothing to do with the female doctor or black doctor. They need to think about the next series carefully and make the writing better

That's 100% true.

The Show has had issues since Tennant left, and got really bad starting in the Capaldi era.

And controversially with some people, I honestly don't think that there is any issues with a black lead in Doctor Who, because on paper it shouldn't have issues with altered character dynamics.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Who was Christopher Eccleston's main love interest?

Who was David Tennant's main love interest?

If I'm not mistaken in the early episodes of the Matt Smith era they did have him and Amy Pond flirting with each other, until admittedly Moffat backed away from the idea.

It's simply not true what you're saying.

The only real ‘love interest’ there’s ever been was River Song and even if what you’re implying was true, about the companions, it’s a canon fact that the doctor has had ‘flings’ with men before in his pas, your refusal to accept that and just barrel on with this misguided belief that they’ve made the doctor gay, which they haven’t done btw, completely out of the blue is based on nothing

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Liam-

The only real ‘love interest’ there’s ever been was River Song and even if what you’re implying was true, about the companions, it’s a canon fact that the doctor has had ‘flings’ with men before in his pas, your refusal to accept that and just barrel on with this misguided belief that they’ve made the doctor gay, which they haven’t done btw, completely out of the blue is based on nothing

Fair enough.

I think that we're just going to have to respectfully agree to disagree on this topic, after all Doctor Who especially is a Show where people rarely ever agree with each other.

[arista]

The Final Doctor Who
is 6:50PM tonight BBC1HD

[Livia]

Originally Posted by arista

The Final Doctor Who
is 6:50PM tonight BBC1HD

Good. I hope they get back to great stories and leave the woke preaching out.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Worst episode ever? Why Space Babies doomed Doctor Who



“Space Babies was at the extreme end of light and fluffy,” says Rob Irwin, co-host of The Doctor Who Podcast. “To be running around a spaceship with some babies and a ‘snot monster’ – who was really just misunderstood [he was revealed to be a pet] – put some fans off from the start.”

Many never returned. Ratings for Davies’s second tilt at Who have nose-dived ever since

So sharp has been the spiral – down 800,000 on 2024 and two million fewer than the not-especially-loved Jodie Whittaker era

But for sheer silliness Space Babies nonetheless took the interstellar biscuit – and a backlash against it has been building among the fanbase ever since, to the point where the episode arguably threatens to overshadow the entirety of the Gatwa era.

The hope was that this new era was going to fix all the issues and bring back Doctor Who. But what we got was Space Babies. That is what broke people’s hearts.”

Go woke, go broke

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/doc...03585726affd0c

[emseateng2014]

imagine the dr who fan fiction multiverses going nuts

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Worst episode ever? Why Space Babies doomed Doctor Who



“Space Babies was at the extreme end of light and fluffy,” says Rob Irwin, co-host of The Doctor Who Podcast. “To be running around a spaceship with some babies and a ‘snot monster’ – who was really just misunderstood [he was revealed to be a pet] – put some fans off from the start.”

Many never returned. Ratings for Davies’s second tilt at Who have nose-dived ever since

So sharp has been the spiral – down 800,000 on 2024 and two million fewer than the not-especially-loved Jodie Whittaker era

But for sheer silliness Space Babies nonetheless took the interstellar biscuit – and a backlash against it has been building among the fanbase ever since, to the point where the episode arguably threatens to overshadow the entirety of the Gatwa era.

The hope was that this new era was going to fix all the issues and bring back Doctor Who. But what we got was Space Babies. That is what broke people’s hearts.”

Go woke, go broke

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/doc...03585726affd0c

The writing really nose dived after Matt Smith left imo, and his era was a drop from Tennant's.

[arista]

Episode 6 of 8

Started with Rylan Clark
Presenting a future pop show.


They should have made him look Older.

Then it goes into small studio setups (at Wolf Studios Wales, Cardiff)
with a few actors.

I assume they were making this for the US market?

[arista]

(Go woke, go broke)

Sadly True LT.

[Nicky91]

if you're in cryostasis you'll look the same though, so they did do that part right


for example, in the video game Fallout 4, your character regardless of gender (Depending on who you choose to play as) also remains frozen for many many years, and also still looks the same as before he/she went into that stasis pod

[arista]

Ncuti Gatwa
said never say never

About a later return.


On BBC1HD, Laura's show.

[arista]

He also stated,
He did pull out of doing Eurovision,
due to the Dr.Who leaving.