[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I know.

But I just hope for everyone that's personally involved, that they finally get the closure that they deserve.

The parents deserve prison

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Livia

It worries me some people are gleeful of the McCann's suffering. I also dislike the occasional comparison with the Shannon Matthews case which was an entirely different kettle of fish.

Same !!!


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[AnnieK]

I hope the parents get closure of some description. It must be horrific if you have been suspected for such a long time and you were not directly responsible. As awful as it will be, it should bring some solace for them if they do find some remains and someone who is responsible is brought to justice.

Having said that I do feel they were woefully negligent in leaving 3 such young children alone and making an abduction far more easy than if the kids were being properly cared for on that night and not just "checked on".

[Livia]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I hope the parents get closure of some description. It must be horrific if you have been suspected for such a long time and you were not directly responsible. As awful as it will be, it should bring some solace for them if they do find some remains and someone who is responsible is brought to justice.

Having said that I do feel they were woefully negligent in leaving 3 such young children alone and making an abduction far more easy than if the kids were being properly cared for on that night and not just "checked on".

Agree with all of that. The parents know what they did and have had to deal with that every day since. But I think some people forget the actual blame is on the monster who abducted that poor kid.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Livia

Agree with all of that. The parents know what they did and have had to deal with that every day since. But I think some people forget the actual blame is on the monster who abducted that poor kid.

Exactly !!!


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[Ammi]

…it’s incredible to think that it’s 18 years ago since Madeleine’s disappearance…I’m not sure that any closure will ever happen in terms of evidence etc but the family must become so hopeful that one day, it could happen …and that’s an awful thought for them also…to know/not to know, ughhhhhh…

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Agree with all of that. The parents know what they did and have had to deal with that every day since. But I think some people forget the actual blame is on the monster who abducted that poor kid.

True enough. But any parent; any decent parent, doesn’t help the kidnapper by leaving their children unattended.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Beso

I doubt they will ever get closure, even if the mystery is solved. I doubt they will ever be able to forgive themselves for the errors they made that night.

Oh they'll have to live with that mistake for the rest of their lives.

But if they're not the culprits that harmed her, I'm sure that they'd at least want answers as to what happened that night.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

The parents deserve prison

I'm surprised that they didn't have their other two kids taken off them by Social Services for child neglect.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Beso

I doubt they will ever get closure, even if the mystery is solved. I doubt they will ever be able to forgive themselves for the errors they made that night.

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I'm surprised that they didn't have their other two kids taken off them by Social Services for child neglect.

Every parent makes mistakes or lets their guard down
Those mistakes can have little or no effect on their child or children or can cost their child or children their lives

If you don’t have kids it easy to be very critical of those that do

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Every parent makes mistakes or lets their guard down
Those mistakes can have little or no effect on their child or children or can cost their child or children their lives

If you don’t have kids it easy to be very critical of those that do

Excellent points !


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[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Every parent makes mistakes or lets their guard down
Those mistakes can have little or no effect on their child or children or can cost their child or children their lives

If you don’t have kids it easy to be very critical of those that do

I don't think that they're evil people tbf.

I do think that they're reckless parents though, and most families would've had their other children taken away from them in the same scenario imo.

I think that they're very lucky that weren't the case.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Every parent makes mistakes or lets their guard down
Those mistakes can have little or no effect on their child or children or can cost their child or children their lives

If you don’t have kids it easy to be very critical of those that do

Do you have to be a parent to know you shouldn’t leave them alone in a foreign country because you want to go out for dinner?

Come on now, that’s ridiculous.

That child is missing (probably dead) and it was a direct consequence of her parents behaviour.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I'm surprised that they didn't have their other two kids taken off them by Social Services for child neglect.

They should have.

Don’t get the support they receive. They’re hideous parents.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

They should have.

Don’t get the support they receive. They’re hideous parents.

Apparently lots of parents do what they did on holiday.. they were just unfortunate to do it when there were known paedos in that area of Portugal.


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[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Apparently lots of parents do what they did on holiday.. they were just unfortunate to do it when there were known paedos in that area of Portugal.


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I doubt that. If they do then they’re just as good parents as the McCanns.

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Na

I simply cannot and refuse to believe that the parents were involved in her disappearance other than making a very poor decision on the night


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I'll never forget Gerry McCann filmed on the balcony of their apartment LAUGHING just hours after reporting his daughter's 'disappearance' to the police. The video was on YouTube but it may have been taken down. ou could search for it.

Who in their right mind would leave THREE very young children in an apartment at night for hours with the door unlocked? That in itself is crazy and irresponsible, whether you believe Gerry's involvement or not.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

I doubt that. If they do then they’re just as good parents as the McCanns.

We have noticed that very behaviour many times over the decades when we visit Greece . When holiday chalets are closely situated it’s difficult to miss all the comings and goings

We are non drinkers but the lure of the bars / nightclubs is just too much for many couples on holiday .. I don’t believe that any of them McCanns included ever resorted to sedating their children though .




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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

I'll never forget Gerry McCann filmed on the balcony of their apartment LAUGHING just hours after reporting his daughter's 'disappearance' to the police. The video was on YouTube but it may have been taken down. ou could search for it.

Who in their right mind would leave THREE very young children in an apartment at night for hours with the door unlocked? That in itself is crazy and irresponsible, whether you believe Gerry's involvement or not.

Maybe the door was locked and a window left ajar ?

Also that video (even if it was genuine) could have been taken anytime before or after that fateful night


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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I'm surprised that they didn't have their other two kids taken off them by Social Services for child neglect.

This.

I'm not going to speculate on this case anymore, it regularly keeps coming up in the news.
Generally with nothing more substantiated in the end.

I recall long debates on here years back, as to what could have been what happened.
I was strongly persuaded by a very determined Chuff me dizzy on this that these parents know much more than they've said.
She didn't hold back and was convincing.
That's all I'll now say on it except for a lot of the behaviour of the parents has always been extremely odd in my view.
As I said Chuff, convinced me more about this sad, tragic and unnecessary loss of a child.
Which certainly was a result in a big part by the NEGLIGENCE of BOTH parents at the time.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Apparently lots of parents do what they did on holiday.. they were just unfortunate to do it when there were known paedos in that area of Portugal.


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…but then if that’s true that ‘apparently lots of parents do the same and leave their very young children/babies…’…that’s not a thought process that many parents and many of us would follow when it’s concerning the most precious part of our lives, our children….our actions and instincts are to safeguard our children, not to follow the behaviour or actions of anyone else…by the same vein….so, so many parents would never ever leave their small babies in an apartment while they went out with friends for an evening out…there are so many dangers and possibilities of danger and harm within an apartment/property itself before even any thought of a paedophile ….and there would always be that thought of those who would purposefully harm the children as well…I mean, if it’s an ‘habitual behaviour’ and commonplace for babies to be left alone in holiday apartments or any apartments then surely it’s not ‘unfortunate’ for that person to be in the area at that time…/…it’s actually an explanation as to why they are there…?… because they know that opportunity is there for them in their intent to harm…I wouldn’t say that it’s per-chance that they’re there…and the person that it’s very much more than unfortunate for would be the baby/the child and the absolute horrors they would endure…

…anyway, I don’t personally think that Madeleine’s parents have responsibility for any direct physical harm and they do have to live with their choices for their whole lives…but I also understand completely the condemnation of their choices and the criticism of their parenting on that holiday because they did have choices…Madeleine had none and that’s the perspective that has been considered in that criticism, it’s the consideration and horrific thoughts of what Madeleine went through which is the biggest of all ‘unfortunates’….

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I'm surprised that they didn't have their other two kids taken off them by Social Services for child neglect.

…I am very glad that the twins weren’t removed from their care…I think their world would have been scary enough and completely turned upside down enough that the best thing for them at the time was the consistency of being in the care of their parents …and with all of the scrutiny as well from authorities and agencies and the media etc…from every angle and perspective, I feel their safety was fairly assured as well as being in the best place emotionally even with all of the chaos ….anyway, apparently they’re both doing very well in their lives and one of the twins, Shaun is a potential Olympic athlete/swimmer and I just can’t help but feel that at the time after Madeleine’s disappearance…to have placed them into care would have been more detrimental and damaging to them than anything else…

[Zizu]

Would you say THIS was good parenting ?

Genuinely interested

https://youtube.com/shorts/q7HMsd3c3...BMLvaT973ttEDT


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I am very glad that the twins weren’t removed from their care…I think their world would have been scary enough and completely turned upside down enough that the best thing for them at the time was the consistency of being in the care of their parents …and with all of the scrutiny as well from authorities and agencies and the media etc…from every angle and perspective, I feel their safety was fairly assured as well as being in the best place emotionally even with all of the chaos ….anyway, apparently they’re both doing very well in their lives and one of the twins, Shaun is a potential Olympic athlete/swimmer and I just can’t help but feel that at the time after Madeleine’s disappearance…to have placed them into care would have been more detrimental and damaging to them than anything else…

Totally agree


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[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Would you say THIS was good parenting ?

Genuinely interested

https://youtube.com/shorts/q7HMsd3c3...BMLvaT973ttEDT


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…that seriously has no relevance at all to any aspect or anything in the thread topic or regarding Madeleine or her parents…in my opinion…