[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/for...d.php?t=397371





This is how we respect and support women. Fcuking hell. Solidarity, ladies

It hilarious isn’t it

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

It hilarious isn’t it

The belief that supporting trans people and supporting women are mutually exclusive is the biggest misconception on the forum.

Disliking individual women on the forum does not make anyone a misogynist, in the same way that women on the forum not liking me, doesn't make them man-haters.

They have no interest in holding genuinely misogynistic posts/posters to account, but say you also support trans people, and all of a sudden, you're ready to chain every woman to a kitchen sink.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

It hilarious isn’t it

Is it, Just because I take issue with how someone dresses in a very sexually explicit way who is idolised by little girls, if her target audience were adults I would have no issue at all why is that hilarious? please explain it to me

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Is it, Just because I take issue with how someone dresses in a very sexually explicit way who is idolised by little girls, if her target audience were adults I would have no issue at all why is that hilarious? please explain it to me

What I find ‘hilarious’ is that you claim to ‘support all women’, but only as long as they fit into your idea of what’s ‘appropriate’. Sabrina Carpenter doesn’t owe you, or anyone, a dress code, regardless of who looks up to her. Girls aren’t that fragile, and women aren’t public property. If your ‘support’ only applies when women dress and behave to your personal standard, it’s not support at all.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

What I find ‘hilarious’ is that you claim to ‘support all women’, but only as long as they fit into your idea of what’s ‘appropriate’. Sabrina Carpenter doesn’t owe you, or anyone, a dress code, regardless of who looks up to her. Girls aren’t that fragile, and women aren’t public property. If your ‘support’ only applies when women dress and behave to your personal standard, it’s not support at all.

What a ridiculous statement, she can dress how she pleases, however if she is influencing little girls, its a moral dilemma, unless you want to live in a peado paradise of course, I can disagree with how she dresses on stage and still support women, its not mutually exclusive, I mean you want men with penises in womens spaces then say you support women, now THAT is hilarious

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

What a ridiculous statement, she can dress how she pleases, however if she is influencing little girls, its a moral dilemma, unless you want to live in a peado paradise of course, I can disagree with how she dresses on stage and still support women, its not mutually exclusive, I mean you want men with penises in womens spaces then say you support women, now THAT is hilarious

What a mess of a reply. Criticising a woman for how she dresses doesn’t make you some champion for little girls, it just makes you the fashion police. The ‘paedo paradise’ line is gross and desperate, as if bare legs and a low neckline somehow justify predatory behaviour. The only people responsible for that are the predators themselves.

And as for ‘you want men with penises in women’s spaces’, laughable. Trans women are women, and repeating this tired ‘danger in the bathroom’ trope doesn’t make your point, it just shows how little you understand about women’s safety and solidarity. Trans women don’t attack women in bathrooms. Men do though.

So no, you don’t ‘support women’; you support women when they stay within boundaries you’ve decided for them, and you use that as an excuse to attack others. That’s not feminism. That’s policing and discrimination dressed up as ‘concern’

[The Slim Reaper]

The same attitudes that blame women themselves for being sexually assaulted. Madonna, Beyoncé, Miley, and Dua Lipa, to name but a few, are not dressing like prostitutes and pushing young girls into a lifetime of harlotry.

Women being free to dress how they like should be celebrated. When we have Muslim women wearing Hijabs, everyone has an opinion on how wrong that is, but a free young women dressing for herself is cause for moral panic?

Hypocritical to say the least.

Little girls in Gaza are having limbs amputated and their lives ended on a daily basis, but I don't see an outpouring of feminist support on the forum for that group.

People are free to feel how they like, but maybe folks shouldn't be so liberal with cries of misogyny when they help perpetuate stereotypes that have harmed women through the last 1600 years.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ms Croxall made headlines in April for challenging a pro-transgender activist who said April's Supreme Court ruling on the definition of sex within the 2010 Equality Act might need some 'clarification'.

In a live interview with the presenter just after the ruling, campaigner and ex-Labour MSP candidate Heather Herbert - who has now joined the Greens - said: 'I feel like I'm under attack.'

He clashed with Ms Croxall throughout the segment, as the host questioned how it was an 'attack', adding he felt it was just a 'clarification of what the word "woman" means'.

Ms Croxall said the case made clear 'sex is binary and immutable' when the activist said local authorities which have not protected single-sex spaces on the basis of biological sex may need to reconsider in light of the ruling.

When Herbert asked for 'clarification', the presenter replied: 'The ruling is that "woman" means biological sex.'

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

What a mess of a reply. Criticising a woman for how she dresses doesn’t make you some champion for little girls, it just makes you the fashion police. The ‘paedo paradise’ line is gross and desperate, as if bare legs and a low neckline somehow justify predatory behaviour. The only people responsible for that are the predators themselves.

And as for ‘you want men with penises in women’s spaces’, laughable. Trans women are women, and repeating this tired ‘danger in the bathroom’ trope doesn’t make your point, it just shows how little you understand about women’s safety and solidarity. Trans women don’t attack women in bathrooms. Men do though.

So no, you don’t ‘support women’; you support women when they stay within boundaries you’ve decided for them, and you use that as an excuse to attack others. That’s not feminism. That’s policing and discrimination dressed up as ‘concern’

lol Transwomen are not women they are transwomen J don't need any lectures from a man on what a woman is please sit down

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

lol Transwomen are not women they are transwomen J don't need any lectures from a man on what a woman is please sit down

As predicted. Ignored 90% of my post and resorts to ‘you’re a man, sit down’. It doesn’t matter what you call trans women, they are women, and your ‘dictionary policing’ doesn’t make your point any stronger. What it does make clear is that you don’t ‘support all women’; you only support the ones you deem acceptable.

Trans women aren’t a threat to women. The threat to women has always been male violence and patriarchal discrimination and no amount of sneering ‘lol’ can change that fact. So maybe try addressing that, instead of punching down at those who already have enough to deal with.

[Swan]

As per, men know better.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Swan

As per, men know better.

The person telling someone to kill themselves last week suddenly has thoughts on ‘morality’? As per, the only thing you seem to know better is aggression and abuse. Might want to work on being a decent human first, the rest can wait

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

The person telling someone to kill themselves last week suddenly has thoughts on ‘morality’? As per, the only thing you seem to know better is aggression and abuse. Might want to work on being a decent human first, the rest can wait

That wasn't here, want me to get into what you said elsewhere too? What's said as far as im concerned, elsewhere, doesn't apply here. But i, elsewhere, you can hit me up and we'll chat about it there.

Imma try be fair, up to you.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

As predicted. Ignored 90% of my post and resorts to ‘you’re a man, sit down’. It doesn’t matter what you call trans women, they are women, and your ‘dictionary policing’ doesn’t make your point any stronger. What it does make clear is that you don’t ‘support all women’; you only support the ones you deem acceptable.

Trans women aren’t a threat to women. The threat to women has always been male violence and patriarchal discrimination and no amount of sneering ‘lol’ can change that fact. So maybe try addressing that, instead of punching down at those who already have enough to deal with.

Sit down, there is a there about a LBGTQ suicide line where fair enough people want to be heard by someone who knows what they are going through, you know NOTHING about being a woman so sit down and get back in your box

[Crimson Dynamo]

Martine Croxall
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A huge thank you to everyone who has chosen to follow me today for whatever
reason. It’s been quite a ride…

I wound up all the right people

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Is it, Just because I take issue with how someone dresses in a very sexually explicit way who is idolised by little girls, if her target audience were adults I would have no issue at all why is that hilarious? please explain it to me

I can't believe that Sabrina Carpenter is teaching little girls to hate men.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

You ok, dude?

No, Andrew and Jordan coming round right now, we gonna sort out how to get women back in the kitchen dawg

[Swan]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

What moral high horse?

You can't see it? The irony?

I respect your Iran/Palestine/Iran argument.

Do you like DJ Quik?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

As predicted. Ignored 90% of my post and resorts to ‘you’re a man, sit down’. It doesn’t matter what you call trans women, they are women, and your ‘dictionary policing’ doesn’t make your point any stronger. What it does make clear is that you don’t ‘support all women’; you only support the ones you deem acceptable.

Trans women aren’t a threat to women. The threat to women has always been male violence and patriarchal discrimination and no amount of sneering ‘lol’ can change that fact. So maybe try addressing that, instead of punching down at those who already have enough to deal with.

Not punching down.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Swan

You can't see it? The irony?

I respect your Iran/Palestine/Iran argument.

Do you like DJ Quik?

Ok, so let me explain where I'm coming from and you can see how you feel about what I write.

The main issue is that tibb is an echo chamber, and that's just a fact whether you like it or not. Who has differing opinions on this forum?

I always post my thoughts, and question posts that others have written. Sometimes I overstep the line (as we all do), but when folks support the murder of women and children, and someone comes along and says "actually I think it's really wrong," people find that really confronting, so rather than examine how and why they feel the way they do, the aim is to minimise that other person. It's why anti-Semitism and misogyny get thrown around so loosely, that the words have lost all meaning. You never see me running from those accusations, I'll always run towards them, because it's meaningless.

it's why folks who have absolutely no argument, always have to revert to saying "you just want to be right." As though that's a weird thing to aim for. Who wants to live their lives being wrong about everything?

I know I'm not right about everything, that's obvious, but I'm happy for anyone to question me about anything, and I'll always give my true thoughts in return.

if folks believe that to be a moral high horse, then that's fine with me.

I am chill, but I do definitely think that sometimes how dry/sarcastic I am irl, doesnt'translate that well on here

[arista]

[BBXX]

While I see trans men as men and trans women as women in societal terms and will defend their rights to use the spaces for the gender they identify as, I think we should take into consideration that it's somewhat disingenuous to say things like "men can get pregnant" when it's the female part of a trans man (the biological aspect) that is allowing them to do that.

I personally don't see why "pregnant women" needs to be changed to "pregnant people". Yes, trans men can get pregnant, but it's so rare that I don't think we need to undo what many millions of biological women have to go through by making it gender neutral.

I personally think that biological women go through a lot of biological strain that men don't have to deal with and by saying things like "men can get pregnant" and "men can have periods" and even "pregnant people" with the insinuation that could be a man, it's undermining that completely.

Away from that, I don't understand WHY a trans man would want to be do something that that is so intrinsic to the biological cycle of biological women and I would imagine most trans men would absolutely despise the idea, which makes this certain gender neutral language a bit pointless.

I also think it's counter productive - as mentioned, most trans men would HATE to get pregnant or menstruate or go through menopause, it would be extremely triggering for them, and so by insinuating they are able to, is highlighting their biological sex which they are trying desperately to disassociate from.

There is a place for gender neutral language for the sake of inclusivity, but I don't believe this is it and I think it does nobody any good.

Having said all that, I don't see the need to take glee from changing it as some kind of gotcha. It feels cheap.

That's just my personal belief on this.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

What a mess of a reply. Criticising a woman for how she dresses doesn’t make you some champion for little girls, it just makes you the fashion police. The ‘paedo paradise’ line is gross and desperate, as if bare legs and a low neckline somehow justify predatory behaviour. The only people responsible for that are the predators themselves.

And as for ‘you want men with penises in women’s spaces’, laughable. Trans women are women, and repeating this tired ‘danger in the bathroom’ trope doesn’t make your point, it just shows how little you understand about women’s safety and solidarity. Trans women don’t attack women in bathrooms. Men do though.

So no, you don’t ‘support women’; you support women when they stay within boundaries you’ve decided for them, and you use that as an excuse to attack others. That’s not feminism. That’s policing and discrimination dressed up as ‘concern’

Oh they do attack females in toilets.. particularly young females.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/new...toilet-ruling/


https://www.scotsman.com/regions/edi...aigners-140883


To gruelling and upsetting to post more links..

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Beso

Oh they do attack females in toilets.. particularly young females.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/new...toilet-ruling/


https://www.scotsman.com/regions/edi...aigners-140883


To gruelling and upsetting to post more links..

The links you posted are for the same person

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

The links you posted are for the same person

It is...and on further inspection it does seem that you are correct.