[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Barry.

I don’t think she was that bad

I've just finished watching the video.

Tbh she did come across as extremely disinterested about the whole scenario, which considering the topic was about a minor getting high on Drugs to the point of passing out, imo isn't a good look for her.

However, I think that this might be the most unlikable YouTuber that I have ever had the misfortune of watching.

The way that he was zooming in on the group of black people just going about their day was extremely weird.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

The way that he was zooming in on the group of black people just going about their day was extremely weird.

Wasn't it paired with commentary like "there are some....... interesting looking characters in there"

Aside from all of that, he also said the city was on the decline because loads of the shops were closed.

I visited Coventry for work recently, and if he bothered to do any kind of reading about where he was going like I did, he would know all those shops are vacant because they're being bulldozed due to a £450 million redevelopment, not because the city is on the decline.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Wasn't it paired with commentary like "there are some....... interesting looking characters in there"

Aside from all of that, he also said the city was on the decline because loads of the shops were closed.

I visited Coventry for work recently, and if he bothered to do any kind of reading about where he was going like I did, he would know all those shops are vacant because they're being bulldozed due to a £450 million redevelopment, not because the city is on the decline.

Correct, he thought that he was hitting the jackpot when he made that comment.

And people like him just love to bash the Midlands, it's sad really.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Wasn't it paired with commentary like "there are some....... interesting looking characters in there"

Aside from all of that, he also said the city was on the decline because loads of the shops were closed.

I visited Coventry for work recently, and if he bothered to do any kind of reading about where he was going like I did, he would know all those shops are vacant because they're being bulldozed due to a £450 million redevelopment, not because the city is on the decline.

Sounds grim.

I won’t be watching the video but by the sounds of it I don’t think it should be on YT. Sounds extremely grim.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Wasn't it paired with commentary like "there are some....... interesting looking characters in there"

Aside from all of that, he also said the city was on the decline because loads of the shops were closed.

I visited Coventry for work recently, and if he bothered to do any kind of reading about where he was going like I did, he would know all those shops are vacant because they're being bulldozed due to a £450 million redevelopment, not because the city is on the decline.

It shows a real commitment to creating a welcoming, inclusive community in the city centre.” Phase one of the £450m regeneration will deliver 991 new homes, 8,000 sq m of commercial space and 17,000 sq m of new public open space, transforming this site in the heart of the city.


Bet they move the drug taking teenage girls and boys and the older looking immigrant types when it's complete.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Sounds grim.

I won’t be watching the video but by the sounds of it I don’t think it should be on YT. Sounds extremely grim.

You can skip that part all it showed was a group of older looking immigrants hanging around 15 year old girls getting high on fake drugs, to the point of passing out...fast forward to get to the near death situation and the female police seargwnts response to a member of the public's concern.

[Jordan.]

the last desperate attempt of a gotcha because.. she took a bite of her lunch. He knew he got shown up

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Beso

You can skip that part all it showed was a group of older looking immigrants hanging around 15 year old girls getting high on fake drugs, to the point of passing out...fast forward to get to the near death situation and the female police seargwnts response to a member of the public's concern.

Thanks for the summary, but if I wanted a paranoid rant laced with casual racism, I’d check the comments on a Daily Mail article.

[Beso]

It's good to see the childless Tibb members all meeting in one place, but.


Move along now. You dont get it.

[Beso]

The mother of the child has commented, and liked my comment. So perhaps her word should be the final word in this police sergeants reaction to a serious issue.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Beso

It's good to see the childless Tibb members all meeting in one place, but.


Move along now. You dont get it.

Ah, the classic “you wouldn’t understand because you don’t have kids” line. Groundbreaking stuff.

[Beso]

A question I would hope everyone who has particpated answers.


After they all view the video how do these 3 people feel.

The 15yr old.



The police sergeant.




The video maker.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Ah, the classic “you wouldn’t understand because you don’t have kids” line. Groundbreaking stuff.

You wouldn't understand cause you don't have a kid that has died from legal highs. So you wouldn't understand the emotions of watching a video where police officers are idly standing by doing nothing, yards from a group of 15-16 year olds gambling with their lives.


I'm not saying that to garner sympathy either, it happened in 2012 and I'm well used to dealing with my own ****.

[Glenn.]

You don’t have to be a parent to know how to parent, it’s not some divine gift bestowed the moment someone reproduces. Plenty of people without kids have more sense, compassion, and responsibility than some who do. Being a parent doesn’t automatically make you wise, and it certainly doesn’t make you right.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

You don’t have to be a parent to know how to parent, it’s not some divine gift bestowed the moment someone reproduces. Plenty of people without kids have more sense, compassion, and responsibility than some who do. Being a parent doesn’t automatically make you wise, and it certainly doesn’t make you right.

By laws of average you are talking shite..

Until you experience it you know Jack ****. To never experience being a parent puts you one foot on the bottom rung of the ladder on the ladder of parenting experience.

[bots]

it's not so much about not being a parent, although it does change people because it is at the front of your thoughts 24/7 from the moment they are born. Non parents just don't have that experience.

Every single one of our thoughts and behaviours is shaped by our experiences, whether that is directly or indirectly. It stll shapes who you are. If we were all the same, nobody would think or behave differently from anyone else

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Beso

By laws of average you are talking shite..

Until you experience it you know Jack ****. To never experience being a parent puts you one foot on the bottom rung of the ladder on the ladder of parenting experience.

By that logic, midwives, teachers, and child psychologists must all be clueless too. Experience matters, sure — but so does common sense, observation, and not talking out your arse like parenting is some mystical elite club.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

By that logic, midwives, teachers, and child psychologists must all be clueless too. Experience matters, sure — but so does common sense, observation, and not talking out your arse like parenting is some mystical elite club.

Midwives don't talk to children in the womb..so we can agree to erase that one. Teachers don't parent, they teach. Or should do..they ain't allowed to belt kids now, cause that isn't in the job description. A teacher had no clue to the parenting of a child amd shouldnt be getting involved in anything. Unless perhaps the child has psychological trauma symptoms. That's when they pick up the phone to the child psychologist who hopefully has went through enough training that makes them independent to social services.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by bots

it's not so much about not being a parent, although it does change people because it is at the front of your thoughts 24/7 from the moment they are born. Non parents just don't have that experience.

Every single one of our thoughts and behaviours is shaped by our experiences, whether that is directly or indirectly. It stll shapes who you are. If we were all the same, nobody would think or behave differently from anyone else

Ain't that the truth.

So as a parent and maybe I'm assuming, grandparent. How do you view this police woman's reaction to what is admittedly a poor description of what was happening by this YouTube's.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Beso

Midwives don't talk to children in the womb..so we can agree to erase that one. Teachers don't parent, they teach. Or should do..they ain't allowed to belt kids now, cause that isn't in the job description. A teacher had no clue to the parenting of a child amd shouldnt be getting involved in anything. Unless perhaps the child has psychological trauma symptoms. That's when they pick up the phone to the child psychologist who hopefully has went through enough training that makes them independent to social services.

You’re bending over backwards to gatekeep something that millions of people get wrong every single day. Being a parent doesn’t automatically make you an expert, it just means you had sex and didn’t pull out. That’s biology, not brilliance.

Let’s not pretend pushing a pram qualifies someone to lecture the world on morals, discipline, or emotional intelligence. Plenty of people without kids have more insight into child welfare than some parents who think screaming and a tablet is a parenting strategy.

If being a parent truly made someone wise, empathetic, or all-knowing, social services would be out of a job, and spoiler alert: they’re busier than ever.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Thanks for the summary, but if I wanted a paranoid rant laced with casual racism, I’d check the comments on a Daily Mail article.

The Daily Mail stuff is more entertaining tbh.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Beso

You wouldn't understand cause you don't have a kid that has died from legal highs. So you wouldn't understand the emotions of watching a video where police officers are idly standing by doing nothing, yards from a group of 15-16 year olds gambling with their lives.


I'm not saying that to garner sympathy either, it happened in 2012 and I'm well used to dealing with my own ****.

I'm sorry to hear about that Beso, I can't imagine what it must've been like for you.

And I do agree with you that the Policewoman and the rest of her team should've shown more interest in what the YouTuber was telling them.

I do however not trust the YouTuber's motive in this case.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Beso

You wouldn't understand cause you don't have a kid that has died from legal highs. So you wouldn't understand the emotions of watching a video where police officers are idly standing by doing nothing, yards from a group of 15-16 year olds gambling with their lives.


I'm not saying that to garner sympathy either, it happened in 2012 and I'm well used to dealing with my own ****.

Sorry to hear that, Beso. I understand your reaction to the video a bit better now.

I know you said I wasn't looking at the scenario objectively, but I would suggest nor were you, which is fair enough, but may be worth considering when discussing the subject with others and your reaction to their reaction.

I based my opinion off what I saw rather what I didn't see. I don't believe the guy showed any genuine concern about the lad when discussing it with the officer - he was sometimes passive aggressive, he hung around the police van for almost 10 minutes before saying anything - his whole demeanour wasn't one of a member of the public seeking help, but rather finding ways to embarrass authority, whether it was questioning what she should or shouldn't do, or criticising her diet. For that reason, she probably thought he was a busy-body time waster. It probably happens all the time.

Aside from that, we don't know what came after or before. They could have been waiting on a tip off for a larger situation, they could have called it in afterwards, these kids could be in regular trouble and they're aware of the situation. We just don't know.

I don't really know what the mother has said, but it would be super interesting to know her view of the police if they'd gone and investigated, because the kid would have probably been sent to hospital, and the social services would then been involved and the parents would now be facing questions of why their 15 year old was taking drugs in a park. At that point, guess who would have been involved? The school.

I'm not sure if you have any teacher friends, but teachers are absolutely expected to parent nowadays. It's completely unreasonable, but it's true. The level of expectation and responsibility that is expected of them- often from the parents themselves - is ridiculous.. Did you know that one in four kids who start school nowadays aren't even potty trained?

I would concede that on an emotive level, those without kids don't understand fully, but that doesn't mean they're not capable of assessing situations involving kids and know what's right or wrong. I am not a pilot but if I see a helicopter in a tree I know someone ****ed up.

By the very definition of the world, having a child is the most average thing humans do - it's literally just reproduction and the entire animal kingdom do it, it takes no skill. Raising children is a different thing, and I would consider the idea that those who have actively chosen not to have children have thought about it more than those who have chosen to have kids: they have considered every specific element of what parenting entails and decided to go against the grain of society - often to the judgement of those around them. They know exactly what it is like to be a parent because it's what has informed their decision not to have them. These people might have nieces or nephews, may have seen their friends raise their kids, or are often older siblings who had to raise their younger siblings because their own parents didn't.

The amount of people I know who said they had kids "because it's what you do". They just did it because it was 'the next step' without ever really thinking of what it entails. I've been called selfish for choosing not to have kids and then in the next breath they asked me who would look after me when I was old, like having kids is some retirement plan.

Reproducing doesn't open up a gate of divine wisdom and clearer judgement, and it's been proven time and time again, and so dismissing the opinions of those who haven't really doesn't stand up.