[Liam-]

Are we talking actual, proper antisemitism or this new modern Zionist definition where you apparently hate Jews and want them to die if you don’t like Israel slaughtering tens of thousands of children

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Are we talking actual, proper antisemitism or this new modern Zionist definition where you apparently hate Jews and want them to die if you don’t like Israel slaughtering tens of thousands of children

You're holding all Jews responsible for the acts of Israel. You don't do that for Muslims... why is that?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Livia

You're holding all Jews responsible for the acts of Israel. You don't do that for Muslims... why is that?

Show me one example of me doing that

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Are we talking actual, proper antisemitism or this new modern Zionist definition where you apparently hate Jews and want them to die if you don’t like Israel slaughtering tens of thousands of children

Artists ‘cancelled because of their heritage

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Are we talking actual, proper antisemitism or this new modern Zionist definition where you apparently hate Jews and want them to die if you don’t like Israel slaughtering tens of thousands of children

I’m talking about synagogues/jewish residents having bricks thrown through their windows, threatening letters through postbox, women being harassed/assaulted without any justification process after, tires being slashed, weapons being ‘waved’ as a reminder to ‘stay in your place, women being followed/threatend on the regular, hateful graffiti, people just opening talking god awful **** about Jewish people (sometimes Christians too) and a few more things I’ve heard about over the years

And no one blinks an eye lid

People don’t care

Maybe people just aren’t aware, but this has been happening for years and it’s only going to get worse

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

I’m talking about synagogues/jewish residents having bricks thrown through their windows, threatening letters through postbox, women being harassed/assaulted without any justification process after, tires being slashed, weapons being ‘waved’ as a reminder to ‘stay in your place, women being followed/threatend on the regular, hateful graffiti, people just opening talking god awful **** about Jewish people (sometimes Christians too) and a few more things I’ve heard about over the years

And no one blinks an eye lid

People don’t care

Maybe people just aren’t aware, but this has been happening for years and it’s only going to get worse

And all of that is horrific and rightfully needs to be called out and stamped out, to say it’s ignored and nobody cares is just blatantly not true though let’s be real.

But on the other hand, of course the statistics are going up when the organisations conducting the research and compiling complaints are now openly including Palestinian flags and stickers and calling for the end of the genocide in Palestine as incidents of antisemitism and ‘harassment’

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Liam-

And all of that is horrific and rightfully needs to be called out and stamped out, to say it’s ignored and nobody cares is just blatantly not true though let’s be real.

But on the other hand, of course the statistics are going up when the organisations conducting the research and compiling complaints are now openly including Palestinian flags and stickers and calling for the end of the genocide in Palestine as incidents of antisemitism and ‘harassment’

People don’t care though… many people are completely unaware of it happening bc again, the media does not give a **** about it

If this was happening to Muslims, there would be marches, protests, social media would be rampant with rage, demanding change and justice.

But if the perpetrators are Muslim, it’s a free pass. It’s similar to those sex gangs that were happening years back (I’m sure they are still happening, too)

People are afraid to speak out because they fear being ‘cancelled’ or labelled as racist by society and that is not okay.

Every person, no matter their religion/race/culture etc etc should be able to report things without fear of being labelled xyz and it should always be taken 100% seriously from the police/government/whoever is in charge.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

People don’t care though… many people are completely unaware of it happening bc again, the media does not give a **** about it

If this was happening to Muslims, there would be marches, protests, social media would be rampant with rage, demanding change and justice.

But if the perpetrators are Muslim, it’s a free pass. It’s similar to those sex gangs that were happening years back (I’m sure they are still happening, too)

People are afraid to speak out because they fear being ‘cancelled’ or labelled as racist by society and that is not okay.

Every person, no matter their religion/race/culture etc etc should be able to report things without fear of being labelled xyz and it should always be taken 100% seriously from the police/government/whoever is in charge.

All of that is just so blatantly the opposite of true there’s no point even trying to argue against it

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Liam-

All of that is just so blatantly the opposite of true there’s no point even trying to argue against it

I can see why you would think that. A lot of people haven’t experienced it personally so have no idea that it’s an issue. When you travel a lot and work with multicultural families, you see the world a lot differently. I know I’m in the minority and I know that people think that this is all a thinly veiled racism. But the words I say aren’t just from my thoughts, they are experiences of people who I have met over the years. I worked have worked in schools where it’s a 100% Muslim population. I have talked to the teachers who experience horrific abuse on a daily basis (that’s all schools of course,) and I have seen how it’s rampantly ignored. I also worked in a Christian school in Bradford and I’ve seen people hang around the school at dismissal to intimate others. Grown ass men antagonising women in kids. It happens so often and people just don’t know how bad it is.

I don’t blame people for thinking the way they do. The internet has such a choke hold on what is okay to say/think and what not to think. People died at the Ariana Grande concert because people were too afraid to act on their suspicions in fear of being labled racist. I’m not saying that’s why they died… they were murdered in a terrorist attack, but perhaps more people could have been saved if authorities were properly warned about him.

I hate to derail the thread, this is supposed to be about antisemitism being ignored in middle class society. I’m only posting my personal experiences with how I’ve seen things happen.

That’s not to say that Muslim families experience hatred and racism too, we know it happens. Ive seen that happen to and it’s awful. I can honestly say that some of the most amazing people I’ve ever met are Muslim. Most of them a genuinely amazing people. But there are 100% people out there who use their race/religion as a threat against other people. They tell them that the police won’t do anything about it and they are right. I dread to think of how many teenagers (it wasn’t just girls who were gang raped) thought about how they would never be able to escape the cycle of torture and abuse they went through.

I am not good with words, it has never been my strong suit, but I truly believe that people just aren’t aware of how horrific some places are in the UK.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

I can see why you would think that. A lot of people haven’t experienced it personally so have no idea that it’s an issue. When you travel a lot and work with multicultural families, you see the world a lot differently. I know I’m in the minority and I know that people think that this is all a thinly veiled racism. But the words I say aren’t just from my thoughts, they are experiences of people who I have met over the years. I worked have worked in schools where it’s a 100% Muslim population. I have talked to the teachers who experience horrific abuse on a daily basis (that’s all schools of course,) and I have seen how it’s rampantly ignored. I also worked in a Christian school in Bradford and I’ve seen people hang around the school at dismissal to intimate others. Grown ass men antagonising women in kids. It happens so often and people just don’t know how bad it is.

I don’t blame people for thinking the way they do. The internet has such a choke hold on what is okay to say/think and what not to think. People died at the Ariana Grande concert because people were too afraid to act on their suspicions in fear of being labled racist. I’m not saying that’s why they died… they were murdered in a terrorist attack, but perhaps more people could have been saved if authorities were properly warned about him.

I hate to derail the thread, this is supposed to be about antisemitism being ignored in middle class society. I’m only posting my personal experiences with how I’ve seen things happen.

That’s not to say that Muslim families experience hatred and racism too, we know it happens. Ive seen that happen to and it’s awful. I can honestly say that some of the most amazing people I’ve ever met are Muslim. Most of them a genuinely amazing people. But there are 100% people out there who use their race/religion as a threat against other people. They tell them that the police won’t do anything about it and they are right. I dread to think of how many teenagers (it wasn’t just girls who were gang raped) thought about how they would never be able to escape the cycle of torture and abuse they went through.

I am not good with words, it has never been my strong suit, but I truly believe that people just aren’t aware of how horrific some places are in the UK.

Of course there are bad people from all backgrounds and faith, but your conclusion that Muslims get away with everything and are protected by society and treated better than other religions, while Jews aren’t safe to walk the streets and are perpetual victims that nobody cares about just aren’t rooted in reality that you can see in the world on a daily basis, Muslim people in this country are in a constant state of danger from thick racists that just want to hurt them because of how they look or where they’ve come from, because other people who look like them have done bad things, Islamophobia is an accepted form of racism in the uk and America, by the media, by public figures and by the public, that’s just a fact, meanwhile you can’t even have an honest conversation about Israel and Zionism without being silenced by the media, fired from your job or being accused of antisemitism, the Israeli lobbies pay to have major influence over western media and politics so that they can push their propaganda at will and people lap it up, less and less every day thankfully, but that’s the case

[Yuki Maru Hoshi]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

I can see why you would think that. A lot of people haven’t experienced it personally so have no idea that it’s an issue. When you travel a lot and work with multicultural families, you see the world a lot differently. I know I’m in the minority and I know that people think that this is all a thinly veiled racism. But the words I say aren’t just from my thoughts, they are experiences of people who I have met over the years. I worked have worked in schools where it’s a 100% Muslim population. I have talked to the teachers who experience horrific abuse on a daily basis (that’s all schools of course,) and I have seen how it’s rampantly ignored. I also worked in a Christian school in Bradford and I’ve seen people hang around the school at dismissal to intimate others. Grown ass men antagonising women in kids. It happens so often and people just don’t know how bad it is.

I don’t blame people for thinking the way they do. The internet has such a choke hold on what is okay to say/think and what not to think. People died at the Ariana Grande concert because people were too afraid to act on their suspicions in fear of being labled racist. I’m not saying that’s why they died… they were murdered in a terrorist attack, but perhaps more people could have been saved if authorities were properly warned about him.

I hate to derail the thread, this is supposed to be about antisemitism being ignored in middle class society. I’m only posting my personal experiences with how I’ve seen things happen.

That’s not to say that Muslim families experience hatred and racism too, we know it happens. Ive seen that happen to and it’s awful. I can honestly say that some of the most amazing people I’ve ever met are Muslim. Most of them a genuinely amazing people. But there are 100% people out there who use their race/religion as a threat against other people. They tell them that the police won’t do anything about it and they are right. I dread to think of how many teenagers (it wasn’t just girls who were gang raped) thought about how they would never be able to escape the cycle of torture and abuse they went through.

I am not good with words, it has never been my strong suit, but I truly believe that people just aren’t aware of how horrific some places are in the UK.

I think this was really well-written. You should write novels more often, Nina...

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

I can see why you would think that. A lot of people haven’t experienced it personally so have no idea that it’s an issue. When you travel a lot and work with multicultural families, you see the world a lot differently. I know I’m in the minority and I know that people think that this is all a thinly veiled racism. But the words I say aren’t just from my thoughts, they are experiences of people who I have met over the years. I worked have worked in schools where it’s a 100% Muslim population. I have talked to the teachers who experience horrific abuse on a daily basis (that’s all schools of course,) and I have seen how it’s rampantly ignored. I also worked in a Christian school in Bradford and I’ve seen people hang around the school at dismissal to intimate others. Grown ass men antagonising women in kids. It happens so often and people just don’t know how bad it is.

I don’t blame people for thinking the way they do. The internet has such a choke hold on what is okay to say/think and what not to think. People died at the Ariana Grande concert because people were too afraid to act on their suspicions in fear of being labled racist. I’m not saying that’s why they died… they were murdered in a terrorist attack, but perhaps more people could have been saved if authorities were properly warned about him.

I hate to derail the thread, this is supposed to be about antisemitism being ignored in middle class society. I’m only posting my personal experiences with how I’ve seen things happen.

That’s not to say that Muslim families experience hatred and racism too, we know it happens. Ive seen that happen to and it’s awful. I can honestly say that some of the most amazing people I’ve ever met are Muslim. Most of them a genuinely amazing people. But there are 100% people out there who use their race/religion as a threat against other people. They tell them that the police won’t do anything about it and they are right. I dread to think of how many teenagers (it wasn’t just girls who were gang raped) thought about how they would never be able to escape the cycle of torture and abuse they went through.

I am not good with words, it has never been my strong suit, but I truly believe that people just aren’t aware of how horrific some places are in the UK.

Welcome to the club.