[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

oh dear, what utter tosh


You hope a child disowns her parents?


just wow

Parents aren’t owed a lifetime of loyalty by their children if they’re bad parents. If I found out my parents thrust me into the public sphere for reputational, monetary and political reasons and allowed me to be the poster girl(boy) of a future generation of people who look up to Tommy Robinson, I would be outta there.

Regardless of what your thoughts are on the initial situation between the girl and her school, anyone with a modicum of sense can see how it has progressed is weird and manipulative. Anyone who doesn’t either has the intelligence of a sandcastle or they just don’t want to admit it. I highly suspect it’s the latter.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Bilton School ladies and gentlemen...





Bilton School @BiltonSchool

June is Pride Month; these are some of the LGBTQIA+ books available from Bilton School library

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Bilton School ladies and gentlemen...


Bilton School @BiltonSchool

June is Pride Month; these are some of the LGBTQIA+ books available from Bilton School library

This is going to be super helpful for kids questioning their sexuality. Wish I had this education available at my school, would have made my teenage years so much easier.

Thanks for sharing.

[Livia]

Everything is a okay to be shared, everyone is included... except a British girl wearing a British flag and singing the praises of Britain. In that case, her parents should lose her forever.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Livia

Everything is a okay to be shared, everyone is included... except a British girl wearing a British flag and singing the praises of Britain. In that case, her parents should lose her forever.

Please don't deliberately misrepresent my opinion. Where did I say they should lose her forever for here wearing of a dress?

Parents manipulating her, putting her in front of national press, and on a stage in front of a hoard of Tommy Robinson fanbois is despicable parenting and creating a completely unsafe, inappropriate environment for their child.

If I grew up to find out my parents used me in such a way for such nefarious reasons when I was 12 years old, I would probably think about limiting contact.

My opinion has nothing to do with the Britishness, either. I am English, my parents are English, my grandparents are English, so are my great grandparents.

Also, I have a question - this school is going to be majority British students. How many other British students wore traditional British clothing and got sent home? Seems like she was the only one. Why. How strange. Even weirder that within 24 hours it's been organised for her to give speeches at far-right rallies and GoFundMe campaigns have been set up in her honour. Crazy(!)

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Parents manipulating her, putting her in front of national press, and on a stage in front of a hoard of Tommy Robinson fanbois is despicable parenting and creating a completely unsafe, inappropriate environment for their child.

This is hugely exaggerated pearl clutching for goodness sake.

I get you despise TR but dragging a child and her parents along for the ride is not nice at all

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

This is hugely exaggerated pearl clutching for goodness sake.

I get you despise TR but dragging a child and her parents along for the ride is not nice at all

Firstly, it's literally the chain of events.

I am not dragging the child at all, none of this is her fault. Her parents, however, are grim. The school ****ed up, evidently. That is true, but it can also be true the Dad is a EDL fan who is using this situation for his benefit and using his daughter as bait.

I implore anybody to answer me this. If you had a 12 year old daughter, why would you let her speak at a rally organised by a man who describes women who don't want children as lonely, evil, barren, dried up misandrists.

Your outrage at me "not being nice" while staying silent on Tommy Robinson is an absolute joke.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Beso

It's not clear at all. Maybe you can't think about writing and thinking like that as a 12 year old, but she's a grade A student. A very intelligent 12 year old.

They will have been learning about culture in class, as this sounds very much like an end of module project to me. I find your comments distasteful, and dismissive of the intelligence of this girl.

I'm with Glenn on this.

And I'm not dismissing her intellect at all, I'm just being realistic about her maturity level.

12 Year olds don't generally write letters that sound like they're coming from a 32 year old.

If I'm wrong, then Tottenham Hotspur will win the Premier League this season, that's how confident I am that the speech was written by one of the parents.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I'm with Glenn on this.

And I'm not dismissing her intellect at all, I'm just being realistic about her maturity level.

12 Year olds don't generally write letters that sound like they're coming from a 32 year old.

If I'm wrong, then Tottenham Hotspur will win the Premier League this season, that's how confident I am that the speech was written by one of the parents.

Sigh

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Livia

Please will someone explain to me what was racist about her speech? Anyone?

I don't personally think that it was racist.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Sigh

What's wrong with what I've said?

Think back to when you were 12 years old at School? And all of your classmates for that matter, would any of you write a speech like that?

That should tell you all you need to know.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

What's wrong with what I've said?

Think back to when you were 12 years old at School? And all of your classmates for that matter, would any of you write a speech like that?

That should tell you all you need to know.

Its not exactly War and Peace ...is it now ...cant see what the issue with it is myself, no language used that would be beyond the capabilities of a 12 year old

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Its not exactly War and Peace ...is it now ...cant see what the issue with it is myself, no language used that would be beyond the capabilities of a 12 year old

I never said that it was War And Peace.

Just that the letter was written from the views of an adult, which for some reason people on here are trying to deny the most likely outcome.

I'm not even saying that the speech was even that bad personally, but there was clearly a bit of brushing up coming from the Dad by the looks of it.

And taking her to a Tommy Robinson event gives even more evidence to the fact that the Dad helped write his Daughter's speech.

[BBXX]

Her Dad has admitted the speech was written by chatGPT, so no, she didn’t write it (explains why it sounds like I wasn’t written by a 12 year old) but nor did the Dad (explains why it says some positive stuff about other cultures)

Wonder what prompt they put in…

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Her Dad has admitted the speech was written by chatGPT, so no, she didn’t write it (explains why it sounds like I wasn’t written by a 12 year old) but nor did the Dad (explains why it says some positive stuff about other cultures)

Wonder what prompt they put in…

It makes sense I suppose.

I knew it wasn't written by a 12 year old though, you can always tell the difference in writing between a child and an adult.

And today's teens will probably say about immigration being "fire."

[Vicky.]

The school on question had to close today because of threats and extremist abuse..

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Her Dad has admitted the speech was written by chatGPT, so no, she didn’t write it (explains why it sounds like I wasn’t written by a 12 year old) but nor did the Dad (explains why it says some positive stuff about other cultures)

Wonder what prompt they put in…

Did you provide a link for that info, Beso asked you earlier?

aploz if you did

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

The school on question had to close today because of threats and extremist abuse..

bet the kids were stoked!

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

The school on question had to close today because of threats and extremist abuse..

While I'm not down with abuse over the phone etc. I am not surprised that in this letter, the school has completely omitted the reason why people are angry.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Did you provide a link for that info, Beso asked you earlier?

aploz if you did

I read about it yesterday...I've since looked but I think he's wiped his Facebook and most of his twitter, so no I cannot prove it, unfortunately.

However run the speech through any AI generator and it comes back with between 56%-100% of it being A.I generated, so I stand firm in my belief it's A.I generated.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by BBXX

I read about it yesterday...I've since looked but I think he's wiped his Facebook and most of his twitter, so no I cannot prove it, unfortunately.

However run the speech through any AI generator and it comes back with between 56%-100% of it being A.I generated, so I stand firm in my belief it's A.I generated.

So it just a belief, ok. I mean full marks to the girl if she is using AI at 12. Its a pity the person who instigated the special day - Mz Ansell the "Culture & Wellbeing co-ordinator" has been a bit sharper...

[BBXX]

While we're asking for ownership, any further commentary on the clashing of opinion that it's "removing childhood" and "risking the vulnerable" by allowing 16 year olds to be politically involved voting, but it's fine for 12 year olds to make speeches at far-right political rallies led by a criminal who called women barren, dried up and vile because they choose to not have children or get into relationships.

[Livia]

Love how this kid and her Dad are now the monsters in this story. It's very... Left Wing TiBB.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

So it just a belief, ok. I mean full marks to the girl if she is using AI at 12. Its a pity the person who instigated the special day - Mz Ansell the "Culture & Wellbeing co-ordinator" has been a bit sharper...

Asks me to prove she's using A.I even though if I did (which I appreciate I didn't) your response would be = full marks to her.

If she used AI = great
If she didn't = great

It's almost like whatever the answer, it wouldn't sway your opinion. So why are you getting hung on whether she did or didn't? Your mind isn't going to be changed.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Livia

Love how this kid and her Dad are now the monsters in this story. It's very... Left Wing TiBB.

She's not the monster at all. I've said it's not her fault, I've said the school ****ed up and I've said her dad is using her and this opportunity in a gross way.

If you want to latch on to a one aspect of that and pretend it's all I'm saying then fine but don't pass it off as true.

Love how you've not mentioned one single thing about how a father is leading his daughter to speak at the rally led by an out-and-out misogynist. It's very.... not giving a **** about women after all.