[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Personally don't like and actively campaigning against them are two different things. We're talking here about people in positions of power who have the influence to radically change a persons rights for the worse based on their opinions.

I believe, and correct me if I'm am wrong, that would might be a white, straight male, just based on things you've said previously. While I understand some of the rhetoric around men can be poor, as a white straight male your rights attributed to those characteristics have never actually been under threat and never will be. It's very easy to have the viewpoint you do when such language will never ever effect you personally.

I get what you're saying, but it also puts me in the position to also look at the situation more logically and fairly compared to anyone that is personally involved in this debate.

That's just my belief anyway.

And I do support Misandrists having the right to spew their crap too, because I then exercise my right to humble the idiots on places like YouTube and Twitter.

Imo it's a healthier society than trying to silence people (which is ultimately what happens,) and then they end up going more extreme against the group that they don't like by the end of the process.

To go off-topic, I feel like we have a lot of messed up people with really messed up views because society is broken, and we can never have healthy exchanges with people who hold these views and hopefully try and pull them back from the dark mindset that they have gotten themselves into, because "punishments" will be handed out to the person.

We're going to keep having our society be broken if people can't air out their opinions, no matter how controversial or wrong these opinions are.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I get what you're saying, but it also puts me in the position to also look at the situation more logically and fairly compared to anyone that is personally involved in this debate.

I would say to an extent yes, but you also lack the experience and personal risk involved.

That's not to say you can't have an opinion on those things, but you have to understand when your rights are never, have never and will never been truly under treat it's extremely easy to say things like 'it's a slippery slope'.

A slippery slope towards authoritarianism and a slippery slope towards allowing people in power to embolden hatred towards minorities are both bad things, but you are mainly bothered by the first one because it will affect you while the second one doesn't.

I don't mean to say you are FOR hatred towards minorities, but you are underestimating how much confidence the words of people in power give to those who need an excuse to be hateful and discriminatory.

Forcing a gay private business owner to serve someone who is instrumental is promoting hate, even though legal, is quite gross.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by BBXX

I would say to an extent yes, but you also lack the experience and personal risk involved.

That's not to say you can't have an opinion on those things, but you have to understand when your rights are never, have never and will never been truly under treat it's extremely easy to say things like 'it's a slippery slope'.

A slippery slope towards authoritarianism and a slippery slope towards allowing people in power to embolden hatred towards minorities are both bad things, but you are mainly bothered by the first one because it will affect you while the second one doesn't.

I don't mean to say you are FOR hatred towards minorities, but you are underestimating how much confidence the words of people in power give to those who need an excuse to be hateful and discriminatory.

Forcing a gay private business owner to serve someone who is instrumental is promoting hate, even though legal, is quite gross.

That's fair enough.

Tbf it's one of those topics where I think that it's incredibly hard to please everyone.

And I freely admit that I am very anti-Authoritarian policies in general, even if they're banning or punishing things that I personally don't like either (including things like Homophobia and racism etc,) I've never really understood why anyone would be disliked based on their sexuality or race, as a grown adult anyway.