[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Not sure what they laws are there maybe he was bailed while on appeal, but he appealed his sentence and lost and then changed gender, or perhaps the original sentence was suspended and he will now serve time

Liebich confirmed this in a post on X. "I will begin my prison sentence as scheduled," she said. "On August 29, 2025, at 10pm, I will arrive at the Chemnitz correctional facility with my suitcases."

…it would seem extremely odd that they were sentenced to one year and six months and specifically stating ‘without parole’ and then allowed freedom for over two years before a custodial, ‘without parole’ prison sentence even began…I’m really not understanding this at all but it does feel that there are serious flaws in the German justice system for German governments to address…

[Crimson Dynamo]

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

No man in living history has turned into a woman.

They are a trans woman
I know it’s hard for you to acknowledge that or understand that

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

They are a trans woman
I know it’s hard for you to acknowledge that or understand that

and as such are not allowed into women's safe spaces or sports
I know it’s hard for you to acknowledge that or understand that

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

and as such are not allowed into women's safe spaces or sports
I know it’s hard for you to acknowledge that or understand that

I forgot more than you know and you come out with more sh1t than sense

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I forgot more than you know and you come out with more sh1t than sense

You certainly forgot manners

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

You certainly forgot manners

I definitely don’t need any with you
Absolutely ignorant at times

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Would you agree that self ID was the worst thing that could happen to transpeople particularly transwomen? I have long wondered why the trans community have not come out in support of the notion that opportunists would jump on this with both feet

Self-ID without any kind of medical diagnosis is not a legal option in the UK, though.

You need a medical diagnosis to obtain a GRC, then you have a two year wait in which you have to live your life as the gender you identify as and intend to do so permanently.

I appreciate that you might have an issue with people living their life without the GRC, but you do realise it's a stipulation to do so? So if they don't, their application will not be granted. What are trans people to do?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Self-ID without any kind of medical diagnosis is not a legal option in the UK, though.

You need a medical diagnosis to obtain a GRC, then you have a two year wait in which you have to live your life as the gender you identify as and intend to do so permanently.

I appreciate that you might have an issue with people living their life without the GRC, but you do realise it's a stipulation to do so? So if they don't, their application will not be granted. What are trans people to do?

What self respecting GP who wants to keep their job will say no?

and there are plenty countries where self ID is fully legal


Countries that allow self-identification of gender legally include:
1
Denmark: Allows legal gender change with a simple declaration.
1
Iceland: Fully recognizes non-binary gender.
1
Malta: Recognizes non-binary gender and has implemented depathologization.
1
Germany: Plans to make it easier for trans people to officially change their first name and gender.
1
Ireland
These countries have established laws that facilitate the recognition of gender identity without requiring extensive medical procedures.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Self-ID without any kind of medical diagnosis is not a legal option in the UK, though.

You need a medical diagnosis to obtain a GRC, then you have a two year wait in which you have to live your life as the gender you identify as and intend to do so permanently.

I appreciate that you might have an issue with people living their life without the GRC, but you do realise it's a stipulation to do so? So if they don't, their application will not be granted. What are trans people to do?

…see, this is a confusion that I was trying to clarify as well…has Marla-Svenja Liebich lived as a female at all and has a GRC…?…and why with a custodial sentence which has to be served without any thought of parole, has it taken two years of bail or freedom for that sentence to begin…

…(…it seems that…)…’Liebich had changed gender and first name by making a "simple declaration" to the registry office in Schkeuditz in north-west Saxony’.…this is based on the new regulations of the Self-Determination Act, which came into force in November last year…however this is also stated in the article I’ll link…

‘The Saxon Ministry of Justice emphasised to the local daily Mitteldeutsche Zeitung that additional psychological or medical reports can be used in certain cases. These include, for example, if there is a suspicion that someone may have deliberately changed the gender entry in order to influence the prison conditions.’

…so it’s all a bit of an absolute, total mess really and a German government mess that was due to be reviewed in 2026 but hopefully this case will be looked at now…


https://ca.news.yahoo.com/convicted-...183023951.html

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Cherie

What self respecting GP who wants to keep their job will say no?

and there are plenty countries where self ID is fully legal


Countries that allow self-identification of gender legally include:
1
Denmark: Allows legal gender change with a simple declaration.
1
Iceland: Fully recognizes non-binary gender.
1
Malta: Recognizes non-binary gender and has implemented depathologization.
1
Germany: Plans to make it easier for trans people to officially change their first name and gender.
1
Ireland
These countries have established laws that facilitate the recognition of gender identity without requiring extensive medical procedures.

I know, I was just talking about the UK.

Curiously, out of the Top 10 Safest countries for women, seven (eight until literally last month) do not require GRC or any medical diagnosis to be able to self-ID.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Why do you only post news articles about the crimes of migrants and trans people but never about the countless crimes of white straight men?

Also, when will people learn posting articles about one-off events to try and disparage a whole group of people is so dumb. There are bad people in every demographic. It's a shitty tactic and only the people in your echo chamber fall for it, by the way.

People are very aware the UK has its own paedophiles,rapists and murderers. So let's talk about all the immigrants being let into the UK, before being put up in hotels and allowed to walk unvetted around our streets.

Statistics are already showing that amongst them are rapists, paedophiles and murderers.

So tell me this. Why are we allowing something to happen that guarantees more men women and children are killed, raped, abused and tortured.

We should all go to hell for ignoring and allowing that to happen. People simply dont think about victims.


I'm ashamed to be sitting here doing nothing about it. We are all complacent in child rapes for standing by.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Beso

People are very aware the UK has its own paedophiles,rapists and murderers. So let's talk about all the immigrants being let into the UK, before being put up in hotels and allowed to walk unvetted around our streets.

Statistics are already showing that amongst them are rapists, paedophiles and murderers.

So tell me this. Why are we allowing something to happen that guarantees more men women and children are killed, raped, abused and tortured.

We should all go to hell for ignoring and allowing that to happen. People simply dont think about victims.

I'm ashamed to be sitting here doing nothing about it. We are all complacent in child rapes for standing by.

Criminals exist. What you do is try and link the crimes of minorities TO their minority status. You see a crime committed by a migrant and you try and suggest it's because they're a migrant. That's why it's questionable. You don't care about the crime and you don't care about the victim, otherwise you'd post about it whoever was the perpetrator.

All you care about building ammunition to give you an excuse to hate on minorities.

"Person from X demographic did this and another from X demographic did that which proves the X demographic are bad and I was right to hate them"

It's a tactic as old as time and most people are wise to it, just FYI.

[bots]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Criminals exist. What you do is try and link the crimes of minorities TO their minority status. You see a crime committed by a migrant and you try and suggest it's because they're a migrant. That's why it's questionable. You don't care about the crime and you don't care about the victim, otherwise you'd post about it whoever was the perpetrator.

All you care about building ammunition to give you an excuse to hate on minorities.

"Person from X demographic did this and another from X demographic did that which proves the X demographic are bad and I was right to hate them"

It's a tactic as old as time and most people are wise to it, just FYI.

we can speak in general terms when we say there are too many illegals entering our country, when it is putting our infrastructure under pressure, when uk citizens are suffering directly as a result. I havent mentioned skin colour once, the same applies to anyone that has a net negative effect on UK people.

Take a look at Southern Ireland and you see exactly the same thing happening. Look closely across europe and you see exactly the same happening there.

If what you really want is uncompromising governments in the near future, then carry on supporting the influx of illegal immigrants

[Beso]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Criminals exist. What you do is try and link the crimes of minorities TO their minority status. You see a crime committed by a migrant and you try and suggest it's because they're a migrant. That's why it's questionable. You don't care about the crime and you don't care about the victim, otherwise you'd post about it whoever was the perpetrator.

All you care about building ammunition to give you an excuse to hate on minorities.

"Person from X demographic did this and another from X demographic did that which proves the X demographic are bad and I was right to hate them"

It's a tactic as old as time and most people are wise to it, just FYI.

You've missed the point. Or ignored it.

I'm not saying nothing like that at all.

I'm accusing each and every one of us of being complicit in the next rape that's committed by accepting these crossings to continue, or by accepting that these strangers are free to roam our city centres late at night.

You can't deny statistics. What you can deny , and do deny, is the victim of the next rape perpetrated by one of these strangers. You deny them their dignity and sanity because you are far more bothered about going up against anything you think is right wing.


To accept anything that guarantees one more rape etc without saying anything about it, and to rather say plenty about the person saying it, shows me you care about nothing but yourself.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

The problem is anyone can call themselves trans
So you don’t know who you are really supporting
I believe pre op trans should have less rights to go into women only spaces

I agree with the BIB in particular.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Beso

You've missed the point. Or ignored it.

No, it's not that, it's that you're blind to what you're doing.

I'm accusing each and every one of us of being complicit in the next rape that's committed by accepting these crossings to continue, or by accepting that these strangers are free to roam our city centres late at night.

You can't deny statistics. What you can deny , and do deny, is the victim of the next rape perpetrated by one of these strangers. You deny them their dignity and sanity because you are far more bothered about going up against anything you think is right wing.

By suggesting we're complicit in the next rape because we accept migrant crossings, once again, is linking the crimes of a criminal with their immigration status. You are completely oblivious to what you do and it feels futile to try and explain again how it's wrong because you're too deep into it.

You only care about the crimes committed by minorities because you believe their crime was committed because they are a migrant or a trans woman, for example.

When I asked about the crimes of white straight men, your answer was "People are aware the UK has pedophiles and rapists". So you are aware, but you're not campaigning to restrict movement of those people, just the people who weren't born here?

Despite the fact a woman is most at risk from someone she knows and usually her husband, you turn a blind eye because the demographic of those doing it match your own.

You are more than happy to suggest people as a collective shouldn't be allowed to seek asylum because some come here and commit crime. You are more than happy for trans women as a collective to have access restricted because a trans woman assaulted a woman. But funnily enough you're never] talking about what we should do about the white straight men as a collective when one of them yet again attacks someone.

Why? Because when a white straight man rapes someone you don't attribute it to their whiteness, their straightness or maleness. You attribute it to them being a criminal. Which is exactly what you should do, but that should be something you do for everyone.

But you don't. You have selective outrage, which means you actually don't have any outrage at all because selective outrage is performative and insincere.

You're using women as a tool to further your prejudice.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by bots

we can speak in general terms when we say there are too many illegals entering our country, when it is putting our infrastructure under pressure, when uk citizens are suffering directly as a result. I havent mentioned skin colour once, the same applies to anyone that has a net negative effect on UK people.

I have absolutely no problem people objecting to mass immigration because of pressure on services and infrastructure. While I think that concern has merit, I don't believe the level of illegal immigration is significant enough to do that and instead believe Governments tell us it is to distract from the fact they are managing the country poorly.

[bots]

Originally Posted by BBXX

I have absolutely no problem people objecting to mass immigration because of pressure on services and infrastructure. While I think that concern has merit, I don't believe the level of illegal immigration is significant enough to do that and instead believe Governments tell us it is to distract from the fact they are managing the country poorly.

Either way, it doesn't matter, because we can all see that our infrastructure is failing and it is the illegal immigration that has tipped us over the edge. Also, by definition, it is people that shouldn't be here and it is causing actual suffering in our legal population. That is wrong

[Beso]

Originally Posted by BBXX

No, it's not that, it's that you're blind to what you're doing.



By suggesting we're complicit in the next rape because we accept migrant crossings, once again, is linking the crimes of a criminal with their immigration status. You are completely oblivious to what you do and it feels futile to try and explain again how it's wrong because you're too deep into it.

You only care about the crimes committed by minorities because you believe their crime was committed because they are a migrant or a trans woman, for example.

When I asked about the crimes of white straight men, your answer was "People are aware the UK has pedophiles and rapists". So you are aware, but you're not campaigning to restrict movement of those people, just the people who weren't born here?

Despite the fact a woman is most at risk from someone she knows and usually her husband, you turn a blind eye because the demographic of those doing it match your own.

You are more than happy to suggest people as a collective shouldn't be allowed to seek asylum because some come here and commit crime. You are more than happy for trans women as a collective to have access restricted because a trans woman assaulted a woman. But funnily enough you're never] talking about what we should do about the white straight men as a collective when one of them yet again attacks someone.

Why? Because when a white straight man rapes someone you don't attribute it to their whiteness, their straightness or maleness. You attribute it to them being a criminal. Which is exactly what you should do, but that should be something you do for everyone.

But you don't. You have selective outrage, which means you actually don't have any outrage at all because selective outrage is performative and insincere.

You're using women as a tool to further your prejudice.

I'm merely pointing out that one more rape of a British woman or child is one to many. We are guaranteeing that rape by allowing this to happen, or ignoring that this is happening.

I say plenty about white rapists, murderers and child abusers. I've been on marches and protests in the fight against child abuse. That was mainly aimed at the vile BBC and it's cover up. I can be seen on YouTube at these protests, up the front, holding the banner, if you don't believe me.


Do not judge a person's real life and real actions by what you see them post on TIBB.


I discuss this matter because it is urgent.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by BBXX

I have absolutely no problem people objecting to mass immigration because of pressure on services and infrastructure. While I think that concern has merit, I don't believe the level of illegal immigration is significant enough to do that and instead believe Governments tell us it is to distract from the fact they are managing the country poorly.

I do agree with you on this.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Beso

I'm merely pointing out that one more rape of a British woman or child is one to many. We are guaranteeing that rape by allowing this to happen, or ignoring that this is happening.

I say plenty about white rapists, murderers and child abusers. I've been on marches and protests in the fight against child abuse. That was mainly aimed at the vile BBC and it's cover up. I can be seen on YouTube at these protests, up the front, holding the banner, if you don't believe me.


Do not judge a person's real life and real actions by what you see them post on TIBB.


I discuss this matter because it is urgent.

I am commenting on your activity here, and the perception it creates, not you as a person or your actions in real life.

There is a reason why topics continue to descend into migrant and trans debate and that’s because a small group on here continuously bring them into the conversation despite being a tiny minority of the population. This then leads to a second group defending them. If they weren’t continuously bought up to push political agendas, barely anyone would speak about them.

The fact there are so many opinions against these groups on here particularly around the safety of women while conversation around the people and crimes of the demographic where the absolute majority of perpetrators sit is a fraction of that speaks volumes.

[Beso]

The majority will obviously be home grown criminals, simply because there is more of us than them.

But that cganges somewhat when you enter the crimes comitted, then add the per capita(ie, how many of each demograoh there is, compared to the crimes committed by each demograoh. I do believe it turns it full circle and makes it more likely that someone not from the UK will commit a crime before someone from the UK will.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

If a trans person is fully transitioned they are no more of a threat to women than lesbians are in woman only spaces

Not necessarily - would you say any other man is "no danger" who had missing genitals to accident or illness?

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Not necessarily - would you say any other man is "no danger" who had missing genitals to accident or illness?

That person would not see themselves as a woman but a man without his bits and would use the men’s spaces