[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I see

But it was basically an execution so you can see why it brings mixed feelings



If we look at it from the justice side they are murderers

Oh absolutely but they have served a lot of time already

[Niamh.]

Plus I doubt they are a case where there's a risk of re offending either

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Plus I doubt they are a case where there's a risk of re offending either

Are you really suggesting that two people who are capable of executing two other others ( their own parents ) are not a risk to the public !??


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[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Are you really suggesting that two people who are capable of executing two other others ( their own parents ) are not a risk to the public !??


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I'm suggesting that two people who killed their abusers are not the average type of killer and are unlikely to kill again yes.

[bots]

To be fair, they were adults when they killed their parents, they did have other options available to them.

I don't for a second, understand the american legal system and they have had some very serious criminals that get executed and others that seem to get a pat on the head and told not to do it again.

Also, we need to remember that America is basically a banana republic now, your guilt or innocence is based on your ability to pay or what dirty details you have on Trump

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bots

To be fair, they were adults when they killed their parents, they did have other options available to them.

I don't for a second, understand the american legal system and they have had some very serious criminals that get executed and others that seem to get a pat on the head and told not to do it again.

Also, we need to remember that America is basically a banana republic now, your guilt or innocence is based on your ability to pay or what dirty details you have on Trump

I'm not saying they should have gotten away with no sentence at all. I just think 30 years is long enough considering the circumstances.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'm suggesting that two people who killed their abusers are not the average type of killer and are unlikely to kill again yes.

But they are surely CAPABLE of anything so why on Earth take risks with innocent members of the public


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[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

But they are surely CAPABLE of anything so why on Earth take risks with innocent members of the public


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I don't consider child rapists and child rapist coverers innocent members of the public

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I don't consider child rapists and child rapist coverers innocent members of the public

What !?!?

I mean if they release them it puts genuinely innocent people at risk ..


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[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

What !?!?

I mean if they release them it puts genuinely innocent people at risk ..


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And i don't agree with you, they killed their abusers.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

And i don't agree with you, they killed their abusers.

So they are obviously capable of killing again !!!

I don’t even kill flies and I pick up worms on paths on rainy days then place them safely elsewhere


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[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Zizu

So they are obviously capable of killing again !!!

I don’t even kill flies and pick up worms on paths ..


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They are in America so what ever happens it’s not going to affect you

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

They are in America so what ever happens it’s not going to affect you

I am obviously not bothered about myself just any other innocent people …


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[Ammi]

…honestly Zizu, you would be the worst jury person when you don’t seem to need to know any details/accounts of a case to form such definite conclusions…

…anyway, this case of the brothers was always so complex that there were two trials originally, with the first ending in a hung jury…and then with the second trial, the alleged sexual and mental abuse/which had also had been cited by others was not allowed to be brought into their trial at all…so without that, then the verdict was pretty much a given to be what it was…if I recall as well with the judge in the first trial…?…it was even suggested that because gay men seemed to be drawn and attracted to Erik…?…that he in some way enjoyed the sexual abuse from his father…so acknowledging that sexual abuse…(…which wasn’t allowed to be cited in the second trial…)…but that it wasn’t perceived as damaging abuse…

…anyway, the decision has been made not to grant either of them parole and that will remain until they can appeal for it again…/…which will be at least three years…I’m sure that it’s probably what they thought it would be anyway and it’s what they’ve prepared for…interesting though that for Erik…?…the parole decision was said to not be because of the crime committed but because of behaviours in prison …whereas with Lyle, he was described by his parole board as a model prisoner and still denied parole, presumably based on the crime…for me it doesn’t seem as though there is any intention to ever release them…

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…honestly Zizu, you would be the worst jury person when you don’t seem to need to know any details/accounts of a case to form such definite conclusions…

…anyway, this case of the brothers was always so complex that there were two trials originally, with the first ending in a hung jury…and then with the second trial, the alleged sexual and mental abuse/which had also had been cited by others was not allowed to be brought into their trial at all…so without that, then the verdict was pretty much a given to be what it was…if I recall as well with the judge in the first trial…?…it was even suggested that because gay men seemed to be drawn and attracted to Erik…?…that he in some way enjoyed the sexual abuse from his father…so acknowledging that sexual abuse…(…which wasn’t allowed to be cited in the second trial…)…but that it wasn’t perceived as damaging abuse…

…anyway, the decision has been made not to grant either of them parole and that will remain until they can appeal for it again…/…which will be at least three years…I’m sure that it’s probably what they thought it would be anyway and it’s what they’ve prepared for…interesting though that for Erik…?…the parole decision was said to not be because of the crime committed but because of behaviours in prison …whereas with Lyle, he was described by his parole board as a model prisoner and still denied parole, presumably based on the crime…for me it doesn’t seem as though there is any intention to ever release them…

Two brothers killed their parents - end of

Those are the only details I need to come to the ( obvious) conclusion that they should never, ever be released from captivity- for the sake of all innocent people



PS

A clue may be found in their nicknames..

The MONSTERS ..


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[Zizu]

Someone do a poll to see what everyone thinks

Keep behind bars or release


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[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Two brothers killed their parents - end of

Those are the only details I need to come to the ( obvious) conclusion that they should never, ever be released from captivity- for the sake of all innocent people


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…and yet you’ve also suggested in other stories that sexual abusers/paedophiles be put to death and specifically shot…which is essentially the crux of the case/that the brothers shot their abusers …that’s cool though, you have all of the details you need of a complex case/which appears to be no details at all, to enable you to reach a conclusion…

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Two brothers killed their parents - end of

Those are the only details I need to come to the ( obvious) conclusion that they should never, ever be released from captivity- for the sake of all innocent people



PS

A clue may be found in their nicknames..

The MONSTERS ..


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Again, you're misinformed, Monsters isn't their nickname, it's the name of the Netflix dramatisation of the case and it's ambiguous as to who they're referring to as the "monsters" whether it's the parents or the sons or maybe a bit of both

[Ammi]

…I absolutely understand that many mindsets are that Lyle and Erik should never be released and that a life sentence should mean a life sentence with no parole, I mean that’s obviously where the parole board stand as well …but those mindsets and those decisions are hopefully based on information and the balancing and weighing of that information…

[bots]

i was just reading in the news today that anyone that gets sentenced to a year won't serve time if the government get their way and that prisoners will be able to earn early release after completing a third of their sentence. Soon i would imagine they just wont bother sending anyone to jail. Thats the UK for you