[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Exactly. Activist write death threats on social media on a regular basis, but no arrests.
Even when they murder children they have some people defending them. Absolute madness

Death to J K Rowling, the only good TERF is a dead TERF, all perfectly acceptable to the police

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Death to J K Rowling, the only good TERF is a dead TERF, all perfectly acceptable to the police

I think it's the medication they take. It affects their mental health. Hence the violence.
But god forbit someone writes a tweet the police doesn't like....

[arista]

The Chief of Police
has stated they are in an impossible position

Ref : ITV1HDnews Live/SkyNewsHD


This is the Poxy Labour Party at fault

The PM was asked a question about this arrest,
on PMQ's

[Ammi]

…so far as reports are suggesting, placards that inferred/suggested physical harm/violence were also scrutinised by the police…which still fits with my own thoughts that I can’t and don’t defend any suggestion of physical harm to anyone …so two wrongs with the police resources as well etc, as I said…

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…so far as reports are suggesting, placards that inferred/suggested physical harm/violence were also scrutinised by the police…which still fits with my own thoughts that I can’t and don’t defend any suggestion of physical harm to anyone …so two wrongs with the police resources as well etc, as I said…

It was a Joke

He said

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

It was a Joke

He said

… potayto’s/potahto’s….a tweet/a joke/an expression/a view etc…all of them can and are expressed and with huge emotion by some… but with the absence of inferring/suggesting violence to anyone…

[Barry.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Death to J K Rowling, the only good TERF is a dead TERF, all perfectly acceptable to the police

the only good TERF is a dead TERF I think is from the movie Starship Troopers where a man says the only good bug is a dead bug.

I think what he did was wrong, you don’t know what his fans would do to a trans person, however, 5 armed cops to arrest him?? What? Did they think he was armed? Like I don’t get it. They should be doing that to the rapists and murderers.

[Ammi]

…I read this earlier which is following on from/expanding on what Arista said…

Police left ‘between a rock and a hard place’ amid debate over Linehan arrest

The head of the police force that arrested Father Ted creator Graham Linehan said his officers are in “an impossible position” when dealing with statements made online, and should not be “policing toxic culture wars debates”.
Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Mark Rowley said he would make suggestions to the Government about how laws governing social media posts could be changed, and is ready to test new approaches “within a matter of weeks”.

Asked about the arrest during Prime Minister’s Questions on Wednesday, Sir Keir Starmer said police should focus on “the most serious issues”, like knife crime and violence, and that he would “always defend” the right to free speech.

The Met came under fire after Linehan, 57, was arrested at Heathrow Airport over three posts he had made on X about trans issues.

In his first statement after the controversy erupted, Sir Mark said: “While the decision to investigate and ultimately arrest the man was made within existing legislation, which dictates that a threat to punch someone from a protected group could be an offence, I understand the concern caused by such incidents given differing perspectives on the balance between free speech and the risks of inciting violence in the real world.

“Most reasonable people would agree that genuine threats of physical violence against an identified person or group should be acted upon by officers.


“Such actions can and do have serious and violent real-world implications.

“But when it comes to lesser cases, where there is ambiguity in terms of intent and harm, policing has been left between a rock and a hard place by successive governments, who have given officers no choice but to record such incidents as crimes when they’re reported.

“Then they are obliged to follow all lines of inquiry and take action as appropriate.

“I don’t believe we should be policing toxic culture wars debates and officers are currently in an impossible position.”

Writer Linehan was arrested at Heathrow on Monday after flying in from Arizona, on suspicion of inciting violence in posts on X.

He said he was stopped by five armed police officers, although it is understood this is because they were from the Met’s Aviation unit and routinely carry firearms.

One of the posts said: “If a trans-identified male is in a female-only space, he is committing a violent, abusive act. Make a scene, call the cops and if all else fails, punch him in the balls.”

Another was a photograph of a trans-rights protest, with the comment “a photo you can smell”, with a follow-up post saying: “I hate them. Misogynists and homophobes. ******* em.”

After anger at his arrest Health Secretary Wes Streeting suggested the Government could look at legislation if the law is “not getting the balance right” on free speech.


…the full article as it’s very long ….

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...681478553.html

[bots]

genuine question. If you are in a bar and you turn to your friend and say ...."I'm going to kill you" Will the police arrest you in these times for that?

I honestly don't know what we can and cannot say in public anymore

[arista]

He was in the USA
flying back to the UK
and the Police tracked his flight.

Report Live on FoxnewsHD online only

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

… potayto’s/potahto’s….a tweet/a joke/an expression/a view etc…all of them can and are expressed and with huge emotion by some… but with the absence of inferring/suggesting violence to anyone…

Adult Joke,
"kick him in the goolies"

[arista]

Originally Posted by bots

genuine question. If you are in a bar and you turn to your friend and say ...."I'm going to kill you" Will the police arrest you in these times for that?

I honestly don't know what we can and cannot say in public anymore

No.


It is a friend joking

[Livia]

Originally Posted by bots

genuine question. If you are in a bar and you turn to your friend and say ...."I'm going to kill you" Will the police arrest you in these times for that?

I honestly don't know what we can and cannot say in public anymore

I think the police will only turn up if the person you're talking to is an illegal migrant or a member of the "trans community", and by that I mean a man who imagines he's a woman. The police don't seem to be interested in anyone else.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Barry.

the only good TERF is a dead TERF I think is from the movie Starship Troopers where a man says the only good bug is a dead bug.

I think what he did was wrong, you don’t know what his fans would do to a trans person, however, 5 armed cops to arrest him?? What? Did they think he was armed? Like I don’t get it. They should be doing that to the rapists and murderers.

What do you imagine his "fans" would do to a trans person? Nothing....

The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist, a phrase that predates Starship Troopers.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

What do you imagine his "fans" would do to a trans person? Nothing....

The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist, a phrase that predates Starship Troopers.

And even earlier again (possibly the origin - 1860's)

"The only good Indian is a dead Indian"

https://www.jstor.org/stable/541345#...s%20originator.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

And even earlier again (possibly the origin - 1860's)

"The only good Indian is a dead Indian"

https://www.jstor.org/stable/541345#...s%20originator.

I don't doubt it. I've heard it in all kinds of scenarios.

[arista]

Nigel Farage MP
has spoken in an interview
in Washington DC
Outside the Congress Building


Sticking up for the Irish Comedian
who was arrested

[Cherie]

Apparently there is guidance from the Home Office published in 2023 and this case meets none of the criteria for an arrest, so Mark Rowley has major egg on his face

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Apparently there is guidance from the Home Office published in 2023 and this case meets none of the criteria for an arrest, so Mark Rowley has major egg on his face

He's suing the metropolitan police for wrongful arrest. I hope he takes them to the cleaners. They think they can what they want with no consequences whatsoever.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

He's suing the metropolitan police for wrongful arrest. I hope he takes them to the cleaners. They think they can what they want with no consequences whatsoever.

I hope he does too.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

He's suing the metropolitan police for wrongful arrest. I hope he takes them to the cleaners. They think they can what they want with no consequences whatsoever.

Yes so he should

[arista]

Wes Streeting MP Health Sec.
spoke on Ch4HDnews.

Says it was an Honest Mistake.

Ch4HDnews reporter informed how she attacked
the Conservative MP's before she got into power

[Vanessa]

If there is such a law them why aren't they arresting those trans who regularly post death threats on social media? Why does the law does not apply to them?
Not saying they all do, obviously.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It's been like this for some time, with police spending their time on minor issues, and ignoring thugs going into shops and clearing the shelves, just easy targets isn't it

The same for peaceful protest, they turn out in numbers, but if your home is burgled they wont turn up

But deep down these police officers know that they need to be doing better than this.

They're supposed to be dealing with crime, not someone having a Political opinion.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by arista

He was joking
but said : Kick them in the goolies


I assume that was viewed the wrong way....................



Update at the BBC Politics Live 11:15AM
changed what he tweeted
The presenter said punch him in the balls.

But weren't that in the context of him saying for women to defend themselves if a Transwoman is potentially being a creep?