[arista]

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

What regimes do I support where being gay is illegal?

Not going to dignify that with an answer, you have shown your hand often enough

You didn't respond to the question about walking hand in hand down Whitechapel High Street, that is just one of numerous areas in the UK where you would not be welcome due to regimes you support, yet you are crying about some word pimp in the USA taking away your freedoms smh

[Shaun]

Keep seeing all sorts of wild conspiracy theories (as to be expected with any politically-motivated killing, I suppose) about how this was someone hired to take Kirk out for his vocal support of the Epstein files being leaked/released, Robinson is another Mangione (ie. a "set-up")... it's just so exhausting how whatever the truth is will be warped, denied, buried, exaggerated, fractured into 900,000 "my truths" that everyone of all sides will stick to whatever happens.

[GiRTh]

Initially, the focus was on blaming the left wing, but it has now been revealed that the shooter comes from a Republican background. His father, who works in law enforcement, even reported him. It's remarkable how the rhetoric has shifted. We've moved from discussions of retribution and revenge to merely offering thoughts and prayers for this troubled individual. What a messed-up political environment we have.

I see that AOC and other left-wing personalities are cancelling events. I don't blame them because a retaliation scenario might be emerging: one of you for one of us.

It's scary

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Keep seeing all sorts of wild conspiracy theories (as to be expected with any politically-motivated killing, I suppose) about how this was someone hired to take Kirk out for his vocal support of the Epstein files being leaked/released, Robinson is another Mangione (ie. a "set-up")... it's just so exhausting how whatever the truth is will be warped, denied, buried, exaggerated, fractured into 900,000 "my truths" that everyone of all sides will stick to whatever happens.

A lot of it is just adrenaline, I think. It was the same after 9/11, Iraq, etc. The only difference is now we have social media that gives endless away dopamine hits and easy validation, so it could more easily go on for months if not longer...

[Maru]

I'm checking my FB that's only really connected to local stuff outside of work. I don't even have friends on it and I'm seeing so many company letterheads with firing/resignations...

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Maru

I'm checking my FB that's only really connected to local stuff outside of work. I don't even have friends on it and I'm seeing so many company letterheads with firing/resignations...

Yes it's all over Twitter as well. Wow

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by BBXX

I’m stunned by this. Nobody’s death should be celebrated, but I understand why some aren’t mourning him either.

Charlie Kirk had some abhorrent views, and as much as those views disgust me he has a right to have them and while others have a right to call them what they are and question him, nobody has a right to take another life.

I feel sorry for his family.

Charlie Kirk once said that we can’t let shooting victims emotionally hijack the narrative and so hopefully Trump follows through with his wishes and we can move on and let his family grieve in private without politicising Charlie’s death - because it’s absolutely what he wouldn’t want…

This.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bots

let's forget Jan 6th

Too true tbf.

But I do think that we're letting Politics distract us from what's happened to a guy that was just speaking to a crowd of College Students.

And basically how there are now children without a Father.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bots

Trump on fox and friends said that the extreme left were the real danger in the country. That the extreme right were good people only concerned about the safety of the people. This is how history is re-written

Trump's close to being right.

Extreme left and extreme right are bad views to hold imo, hence why they're called extreme.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Scarlett.

I really dislike what meme culture has turned into, it used to just be silly dogs and cats and relatable silly stuff, it doesn't help also that you get The White House themselves making dehumanising memes about real people

Exactly! Scarlett.

[Glenn.]

“He was radicalised by the left”

[Crimson Dynamo]

By the far left, specifically Antifa

But also by the left wing MSM

sad but true

[Crimson Dynamo]

The incident at Office Depot involved an employee refusing to print materials deemed
"negative" or "propaganda," reportedly fliers for a Charlie Kirk virgil event. The
company apologized, fired the associate, and reaffirmed their policies.

[Glenn.]

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

By the far left, specifically Antifa

But also by the left wing MSM

sad but true

Dunno about that. I’m not saying he wasn’t and I’m not suggesting there aren’t extremists on the left but this doesn’t seem more and more he’s actually further right than even Charlie Kirk.

We’ll see in time but his entire family was MAGA, he was raised around guns and there are suggestions he was a fan of a person who encouraged his followers to try and expose Charlie Kirk as a fake Conservative.

Of course some of this unconfirmed, hence why we’ll see in time, but it’s also not confirmed he was a radical leftist either.

So I ask, those who immediately turned this into a “this is what the left do” situation … what are you going to say if it does come out he’s was right-wing extremists? What will you say about all of those republications who literally raged war on the left when their narrative turns into “he was a deeply troubled young man, the likes of the dude in office who said he was “praying it was someone from another country” and the likes of this deeply unserious and confused woman:



It’s a great shame this was turned into a left vs right situation but when the leader of the free world’ emboldens it to create further divide and hatred, I guess it’s an inevitablity.

What a world.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Keep seeing all sorts of wild conspiracy theories (as to be expected with any politically-motivated killing, I suppose) about how this was someone hired to take Kirk out for his vocal support of the Epstein files being leaked/released, Robinson is another Mangione (ie. a "set-up")... it's just so exhausting how whatever the truth is will be warped, denied, buried, exaggerated, fractured into 900,000 "my truths" that everyone of all sides will stick to whatever happens.

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Initially, the focus was on blaming the left wing, but it has now been revealed that the shooter comes from a Republican background. His father, who works in law enforcement, even reported him. It's remarkable how the rhetoric has shifted. We've moved from discussions of retribution and revenge to merely offering thoughts and prayers for this troubled individual. What a messed-up political environment we have.

I see that AOC and other left-wing personalities are cancelling events. I don't blame them because a retaliation scenario might be emerging: one of you for one of us.

It's scary

…it really is extremely scary, obviously the violence in itself is terrifying but it’s no longer just that, it’s the ‘aftermath’ also that’s almost become ‘a game’…of online personalities…MTVN touched on it earlier in the thread and there almost feels like a ‘giddiness’ of creating narratives and then following the path of those creations regardless of whatever truths surround it all…the shock and horror of the taking of life(lives) becomes lost in a ‘tribal war’ of left/right, Republic/Democrat…and sadly in the US atm, there is a leader who is nurturing and encouraging that as well…many senators, after Charlie Kirk’s killing, expressed that this was a crime against a US citizen and Republics and Democrats should come together in their mutual horror …but sadly I’m realising, I think many of us are realising that, that isn’t the world so many want and so many encourage ….there is a thirst to live within the lawless Wild West of the internet and internet personas…it’s a scary time and a scary world and words of violence are more and more becoming actions of violence…

[Crimson Dynamo]

Here is the video from Office depot with them refusing to print said poster:

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1966642343190110501

[Beso]

what are you going to say if it does come out he’s was right-wing extremists?



I'd expect some thanks from Glenn.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…it really is extremely scary, obviously the violence in itself is terrifying but it’s no longer just that, it’s the ‘aftermath’ also that’s almost become ‘a game’…of online personalities…MTVN touched on it earlier in the thread and there almost feels like a ‘giddiness’ of creating narratives and then following the path of those creations regardless of whatever truths surround it all…the shock and horror of the taking of life(lives) becomes lost in a ‘tribal war’ of left/right, Republic/Democrat…and sadly in the US atm, there is a leader who is nurturing and encouraging that as well…many senators, after Charlie Kirk’s killing, expressed that this was a crime against a US citizen and Republics and Democrats should come together in their mutual horror …but sadly I’m realising, I think many of us are realising that, that isn’t the world so many want and so many encourage ….there is a thirst to live within the lawless Wild West of the internet and internet personas…it’s a scary time and a scary world and words of violence are more and more becoming actions of violence…

This, all the way.
Excellent post.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…it really is extremely scary, obviously the violence in itself is terrifying but it’s no longer just that, it’s the ‘aftermath’ also that’s almost become ‘a game’…of online personalities…MTVN touched on it earlier in the thread and there almost feels like a ‘giddiness’ of creating narratives and then following the path of those creations regardless of whatever truths surround it all…the shock and horror of the taking of life(lives) becomes lost in a ‘tribal war’ of left/right, Republic/Democrat…and sadly in the US atm, there is a leader who is nurturing and encouraging that as well…many senators, after Charlie Kirk’s killing, expressed that this was a crime against a US citizen and Republics and Democrats should come together in their mutual horror …but sadly I’m realising, I think many of us are realising that, that isn’t the world so many want and so many encourage ….there is a thirst to live within the lawless Wild West of the internet and internet personas…it’s a scary time and a scary world and words of violence are more and more becoming actions of violence…

Spot on.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…it really is extremely scary, obviously the violence in itself is terrifying but it’s no longer just that, it’s the ‘aftermath’ also that’s almost become ‘a game’…of online personalities…MTVN touched on it earlier in the thread and there almost feels like a ‘giddiness’ of creating narratives and then following the path of those creations regardless of whatever truths surround it all…the shock and horror of the taking of life(lives) becomes lost in a ‘tribal war’ of left/right, Republic/Democrat…and sadly in the US atm, there is a leader who is nurturing and encouraging that as well…many senators, after Charlie Kirk’s killing, expressed that this was a crime against a US citizen and Republics and Democrats should come together in their mutual horror …but sadly I’m realising, I think many of us are realising that, that isn’t the world so many want and so many encourage ….there is a thirst to live within the lawless Wild West of the internet and internet personas…it’s a scary time and a scary world and words of violence are more and more becoming actions of violence…

spot on Ammi

[Crimson Dynamo]

Just seeing the countless videos of left wing people gloating at his death has been horrific. There does seem to be a definite trend of young white women (probably who did some "arts" degree at uni)

It reminds me of this quote

[Glenn.]

Yeah the women should know their place

[Crimson Dynamo]

Piers Morgan last night aired a sick 50-second montage exposing TikTok users celebrating Charlie Kirk’s death.

Its sickening that people like this are among us

If you can stomach it video below

https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1966568001752142291