[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Liam-

The ‘protect are women!!’ Lot when faced with women that don’t agree with them

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sigh

is that out of context partial video of a woman laughing as she "runs away"

the best you can muster 48 hours later

[Livia]

Tired of our trans supporting, woman hating gay male contingent claiming OTHERS don't really care about women. They don't care about women that's for sure.

[BBXX]

Just a reminder 41% of those who were arrested on the anti-migrant protest last year in the name of "safety for women" were known to police for domestic abuse.

A reminder than a woman is more likely to be killed by her son than someone she doesn't know.

Also that overwhelmingly women are victims of abuse by their partner, or ex.

A reminder Tommy Robinson was granted a stalking prevention order to protect a female journalist he harassed.

A reminder that there are multiple videos from this rally of men intimidating or being violent towards women, or sexually suggestive, that nobody on the thread other than the gays have criticised or commented on.

[Liam-]

Certain members constantly bringing up other members sexuality as an attack being ignored by the moderation team is not a surprise, but very disappointing

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Just a reminder 41% of those who were arrested on the anti-migrant protest last year in the name of "safety for women" were known to police for domestic abuse.

A reminder than a woman is more likely to be killed by her son than someone she doesn't know.

Also that overwhelmingly women are victims of abuse by their partner, or ex.

A reminder Tommy Robinson was granted a stalking prevention order to protect a female journalist he harassed.

A reminder that there are multiple videos from this rally of men intimidating or being violent towards women, or sexually suggestive, that nobody on the thread other than the gays have criticised or commented on.

Shhhhh. They don’t like facts.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Aww the 3 dissenting voices have come as one standard echo chamber Harmony barber shop trio

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Liam-

The ‘protect are women!!’ Lot when faced with women that don’t agree with them

Ahhh British people at their finest. It’s a shame these types of people exist (on both sides) as they really add unwanted fuel to a fire.

[Beso]

Real fascists look like this https://youtu.be/3paXlGA57OI?si=dNj14L--yg26A3Me


Not some fat wee teenager

[Crimson Dynamo]

This nasty goblin is beyond the pale

disgusting

[Crimson Dynamo]

better

[Livia]

Did he mention the grooming gangs and how he's protected them? Didn't think so.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Livia

Tommy Robinson turning up with his followers was the worst thing to happen to that rally. It might have gone very differently. Robinson's attendance always gives the Left an opportunity to call us all far Right.

That's my view too.

Because he has a terrible reputation with a lot of people, so any view that he holds (even if it's possibly a sensible viewpoint) will just get tarred as racist.

It can be frustrating to see unfold imo.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by BBXX

This was a Tommy Robinson organised protest, he didn’t just stumble across it. The people are there because of Tommy Robinson not in spite of him.

Was super enlightening to see video footage or a group of “protect our women” men surrounding a sole woman, ripping her placard from her hand and breaking it in two. Was also pretty enlightening to see the swarm of men in the parade pass by a woman a bridge and sing “get yer tits out for the lads”.

When you campaign for free speech just so you can tell women to get naked for your own enjoyment. What a worthy cause

That doesn't sound good.

Because a lot of women are obviously going to feel uncomfortable with a load of strange men talking to her like that.

I don't mind a bit of back and forth banter, but this sounds like they were trying to intimidate her.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Serioulsy reaching for anything negative to say

i mean really

Tbf, a bunch of complete strangers coming up to a woman and asking for her to "bare her tits" is a bit odd.

Don't you agree?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Liam-

The ‘protect are women!!’ Lot when faced with women that don’t agree with them

What happened beforehand?

Because to try and defend the guy in the video, he did try to calm his Mother down (who I am guessing is his Mother anyway lol,) but it obviously doesn't look good seeing a guy chasing a woman down the street, especially in an environment like a protest zone.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

This nasty goblin is beyond the pale

disgusting

I agree with him that we do need to stop the rise in Far Right ideology.

However he does need to address the elephant in the room, which as @Livia has pointed out earlier in the thread herself, Far Right Politics wouldn't be growing if the Left weren't also going more Politically extreme too.

It's gotten so bad in this country, that you're seen as a 'fence sitter' if you're more in the centre Politically.

But neither side can see it in themselves, and that's why this problem won't go away anytime soon.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

What happened beforehand?

Because to try and defend the guy in the video, he did try to calm his Mother down (who I am guessing is his Mother anyway lol,).

Wasn't he telling his mother to 'smack her'.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

But neither side can see it in themselves, and that's why this problem won't go away anytime soon.

I do agree with this, but I think you also need to consider that the far left are usually Antifa vandals who destroy property and petition to get people cancelled. Yes, there are violent far left of course, but the stats show time and time again that the majority of physical violence and the majority of extremist-led murder is by right-wing extremists.

But more than that, the far right hold actual positions of power far far more frequently and use their political agenda to make life worse for millions of people by enacting policies that put peoples lives at actual risk, open people up to discrimination and incite hatred for people simply existing.

Yes both exist but the threat level of each is not equal.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by BBXX

I do agree with this, but I think you also need to consider that the far left are usually Antifa vandals who destroy property and petition to get people cancelled. Yes, there are violent far left of course, but the stats show time and time again that the majority of physical violence and the majority of extremist-led murder is by right-wing extremists.

But more than that, the far right hold actual positions of power far far more frequently and use their political agenda to make life worse for millions of people by enacting policies that put peoples lives at actual risk, open people up to discrimination and incite hatred for people simply existing.

Yes both exist but the threat level of each is not equal.

I wholly agree with all that you've said there.
I've now given up trying to reason on here but your posts are a very refreshing read in the context of the other more hate preaching and scapegoating prejudice of other human beings growing more and around issues.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I agree with him that we do need to stop the rise in Far Right ideology.

However he does need to address the elephant in the room, which as @Livia has pointed out earlier in the thread herself, Far Right Politics wouldn't be growing if the Left weren't also going more Politically extreme too.

It's gotten so bad in this country, that you're seen as a 'fence sitter' if you're more in the centre Politically.

But neither side can see it in themselves, and that's why this problem won't go away anytime soon.

It does make me smile when people go on about the Far Right. I do acknowledge there is a small contingent of thugs who steam in and drag everyone down with them. Everyone can see it. Everyone saw it last Saturday. The behaviour of some was shameful. That's something you will never hear from the Far Left because they think their actions are always justified.

I recently watched a programme about Rock Against Racism in the 70/80s, White Riot. I urge everyone to watch it. Back then the Far Right was just that, Far Right, the National Front, Column 88, uneducated bullies who had the audacity to sieg heiling on the streets, who wore Nazi regalia and wanted the immediate deportation of ALL black people. They were the dregs of human society. The people marching with union flags now are, almost without exception, ordinary people, while they may be on the Right, no way are they Far Right. They do not want the removal of all people who are black, indeed there were black people marching with them. What they want is the removal of undocumented illegals who've landed on our shores with the tender help of the farcically named Border Force and Lifeboats, a charity that exists on donations from the public but which the Government forces to act as taxis.

The Right recognises the Far Right. The Far Left are so indoctrinated, so radicalised they can't see the dangerous path down which they're heading and it's peopled largely by those who don't now and never have contributed to British society and therefore have no stake in it.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

What happened beforehand?

Because to try and defend the guy in the video, he did try to calm his Mother down (who I am guessing is his Mother anyway lol,) but it obviously doesn't look good seeing a guy chasing a woman down the street, especially in an environment like a protest zone.

Telling her repeatedly to smack the random brown woman they’d just chased down the street is him trying to calm her down?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf, a bunch of complete strangers coming up to a woman and asking for her to "bare her tits" is a bit odd.

Don't you agree?

As is walking up to complete strangers and shouting, Nazi, fascist, pedo scum, racist...which came first? Which is retaliatory?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by BBXX

I do agree with this, but I think you also need to consider that the far left are usually Antifa vandals who destroy property and petition to get people cancelled. Yes, there are violent far left of course, but the stats show time and time again that the majority of physical violence and the majority of extremist-led murder is by right-wing extremists.

But more than that, the far right hold actual positions of power far far more frequently and use their political agenda to make life worse for millions of people by enacting policies that put peoples lives at actual risk, open people up to discrimination and incite hatred for people simply existing.

Yes both exist but the threat level of each is not equal.

Maybe in the USA. Not the UK though, and thats where we live, and where we vote in our government. Which happens to be Labour this time, and it's them, it's starmer and his Labour government that's caused all this division., by treating the right different to the left at a time when he should have been trying to unite everyone.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Livia

It does make me smile when people go on about the Far Right. I do acknowledge there is a small contingent of thugs who steam in and drag everyone down with them. Everyone can see it. Everyone saw it last Saturday. The behaviour of some was shameful. That's something you will never hear from the Far Left because they think their actions are always justified.

I recently watched a programme about Rock Against Racism in the 70/80s, White Riot. I urge everyone to watch it. Back then the Far Right was just that, Far Right, the National Front, Column 88, uneducated bullies who had the audacity to sieg heiling on the streets, who wore Nazi regalia and wanted the immediate deportation of ALL black people. They were the dregs of human society. The people marching with union flags now are, almost without exception, ordinary people, while they may be on the Right, no way are they Far Right. They do not want the removal of all people who are black, indeed there were black people marching with them. What they want is the removal of undocumented illegals who've landed on our shores with the tender help of the farcically named Border Force and Lifeboats, a charity that exists on donations from the public but which the Government forces to act as taxis.

The Right recognises the Far Right. The Far Left are so indoctrinated, so radicalised they can't see the dangerous path down which they're heading and it's peopled largely by those who don't now and never have contributed to British society and therefore have no stake in it.

Great post..

I do disagree though about the actions of some last Saturday. The police started it yet again...the same police force who treat them different every weekend at protests up and down the country, the same police force who did starmers budding last summer with the help of the judges. The same police force who batterr down old women's doors and arrest hem for an illegal immigrant breaking into their house, amongst other things.


No,last Saturday the police had both sides seperated, just off trafalger square. Then a large separate group of antifa members who wernt with the main group of lefties wanted an escort to the main group from the police. Of course the lefty simps accomodated this by drawing batons and forcing the right wing protestors back towards trafalger square. Where on earth the police expected them to go considering how already jam packed it was. All to allow ant8fa to saunter past hurling abuse at them.

So that's where and why it began to kick off. Rightly so To, treat people differently and the down trodden will always fight back.


The left thought they were the masses, got a massive shock now the silent majority are awakening up to their bulllshit politics.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Beso

Maybe in the USA. Not the UK though, and thats where we live, and where we vote in our government. Which happens to be Labour this time, and it's them, it's starmer and his Labour government that's caused all this division., by treating the right different to the left at a time when he should have been trying to unite everyone.

Labour is not far left though, not by any stretch and they are essentially becoming Tory Lite - almost as right wing and probably even more Authoritarian. The UK is not led by a far left party.