[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

But neither side can see it in themselves, and that's why this problem won't go away anytime soon.

I do agree with this, but I think you also need to consider that the far left are usually Antifa vandals who destroy property and petition to get people cancelled. Yes, there are violent far left of course, but the stats show time and time again that the majority of physical violence and the majority of extremist-led murder is by right-wing extremists.

But more than that, the far right hold actual positions of power far far more frequently and use their political agenda to make life worse for millions of people by enacting policies that put peoples lives at actual risk, open people up to discrimination and incite hatred for people simply existing.

Yes both exist but the threat level of each is not equal.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by BBXX

I do agree with this, but I think you also need to consider that the far left are usually Antifa vandals who destroy property and petition to get people cancelled. Yes, there are violent far left of course, but the stats show time and time again that the majority of physical violence and the majority of extremist-led murder is by right-wing extremists.

But more than that, the far right hold actual positions of power far far more frequently and use their political agenda to make life worse for millions of people by enacting policies that put peoples lives at actual risk, open people up to discrimination and incite hatred for people simply existing.

Yes both exist but the threat level of each is not equal.

I wholly agree with all that you've said there.
I've now given up trying to reason on here but your posts are a very refreshing read in the context of the other more hate preaching and scapegoating prejudice of other human beings growing more and around issues.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I wholly agree with all that you've said there.
I've now given up trying to reason on here but your posts are a very refreshing read in the context of the other more hate preaching and scapegoating prejudice of other human beings growing more and around issues.

You are a great contributor to this Forum Joey, and especially this section of the Forum imo.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by BBXX

I do agree with this, but I think you also need to consider that the far left are usually Antifa vandals who destroy property and petition to get people cancelled. Yes, there are violent far left of course, but the stats show time and time again that the majority of physical violence and the majority of extremist-led murder is by right-wing extremists.

But more than that, the far right hold actual positions of power far far more frequently and use their political agenda to make life worse for millions of people by enacting policies that put peoples lives at actual risk, open people up to discrimination and incite hatred for people simply existing.

Yes both exist but the threat level of each is not equal.

Maybe in the USA. Not the UK though, and thats where we live, and where we vote in our government. Which happens to be Labour this time, and it's them, it's starmer and his Labour government that's caused all this division., by treating the right different to the left at a time when he should have been trying to unite everyone.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Beso

Maybe in the USA. Not the UK though, and thats where we live, and where we vote in our government. Which happens to be Labour this time, and it's them, it's starmer and his Labour government that's caused all this division., by treating the right different to the left at a time when he should have been trying to unite everyone.

Labour is not far left though, not by any stretch and they are essentially becoming Tory Lite - almost as right wing and probably even more Authoritarian. The UK is not led by a far left party.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Labour is not far left though, not by any stretch and they are essentially becoming Tory Lite - almost as right wing and probably even more Authoritarian. The UK is not led by a far left party.

Maybe so, but he's holding the door wide open to the far left whilst closing it firmly in the face of the moderate right.


He may have had to act against Palestine action, but that was a step to far by them that caused it.

The 100s perhaps 1000s arrested for supporting them had to be done (something i didnt agree with)

But where are the sensational headlines, where is the fast tracking to court and orison, where is the public humiliation and ruining of lives for these terrorist supporters that the victims of the police, and starmers judges received simply for shouting nasty words got last summer?


Thats the rage the people feel, the feeling of being treated differently, many feeling its becauae of their class. The working class, betrayed by a so called working class party., all because pathetic starmer wanted to act all tough.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Beso

But where are the sensational headlines, where is the fast tracking to court and orison, where is the public humiliation and ruining of lives for these terrorist supporters that the victims of the police, and starmers judges received simply for shouting nasty words got last summer?

C'mon, dude....

Terrorist Supporters:







Shouting Nasty Words:

[Crimson Dynamo]

30 months in prison for chanting "who the ******* is Allah?"

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

30 months in prison for chanting "who the ******* is Allah?"

Stuff like this doesn't help Starmer.

We have the Media constantly talking about violent criminals being released because of a 'lack of prison space' and then they get replaced with people like this.

It just makes Starmer and the country as a whole look pathetic that people can get arrested and sent to prison for saying this stuff.

The one that should be in Prison however was the one that wanted to assassinate Starmer, because that's a threat plus incitement arguably.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by BBXX

I do agree with this, but I think you also need to consider that the far left are usually Antifa vandals who destroy property and petition to get people cancelled. Yes, there are violent far left of course, but the stats show time and time again that the majority of physical violence and the majority of extremist-led murder is by right-wing extremists.

But more than that, the far right hold actual positions of power far far more frequently and use their political agenda to make life worse for millions of people by enacting policies that put peoples lives at actual risk, open people up to discrimination and incite hatred for people simply existing.

Yes both exist but the threat level of each is not equal.

That's a fair point.

I do think that the Media are encouraging both sides to become more extreme though, and it has largely worked.