[arista]

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Talking about how wrong it is
to kill someone you do not like

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

ABC News reporter swoons over romance between Charlie Kirk assassin and
trans roommate: 'very touching'

Spoiler:

An ABC reporter who was in attendance at a press briefing in Utah where charges against the suspect in Charlie Kirk's assassination were detailed claimed that the text messages between the alleged killer and his transgender romantic partner were "very touching." In those messages, Tyler Robinson urged his lover Lance Twiggs to destroy evidence to help cover up his connection to the killing.

Matt Gutman told viewers "we have seen an alleged murderer with such specific text messages about the alleged murder weapon, where it was hidden, how it was placed, what was on it.

video - https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1968042242058387745

But also it was very touching, in a way that I think many of us didn't expect, a very intimate portrait into this relationship between the suspect's roommate and the suspect himself, with him repeatedly calling his roommate, who was transitioning, calling him 'my love', and 'I want to protect you my love.'

"So it was this duality of someone who, the attorney said, not only jeopardized the life of Charlie Kirk and the crowd, but was doing it in front of children, which is one of the aggravating circumstances of this case. And on the other hand, he was, you know, speaking so lovingly about his partner. So a very interesting... riveting press conference."

Since a suspect was named, there has been an effort among mainstream media outlets to paint him as a person on the far-right wing and now that this narrative has been proven false by investigators, ABC takes the view that the alleged killer was a loving partner to his trans boyfriend.

During that press conference, the Utah county attorney on the case revealed that accused killer Tyler Robinson came from a conservative family but had taken up leftist positions on trans and other position and wrongfully believed Charlie Kirk was a hateful person.

https://thepostmillennial.com/abc-ne...campaign=64470

I saw that last night but was reluctant to post because I can only take so much.

Some now (in media) are trying to say he's not politic at all... which is insane... the police are saying it is politically-motivated.

I'll use X here because it's convenient:

His "roommate" barely said anything to him. It was mainly the shooter bragging about all the murdering he just did. That is NOT love.

One of ABC's examples of a touching moment, apparently:

Shooter: … judging from today I’d say grandpas gun does just fine idk. I think that was a $2k scope ;-; …

ABC News reporter Matt Gutman blasted for calling texts from Charlie Kirk assassination suspect Tyler Robinson ‘very touching’
https://nypost.com/2025/09/16/media/...very-touching/

“I don’t think I ever experienced a press conference in which we’ve read text messages that are A – so fulsome, so robust, so apparently allegedly self-incriminating and yet, on the other hand, so touching, right?” Gutman grasped.

“And the terminology he used, he was trying to protect him. He kept calling him ‘my love.’ ‘My reason for doing this is to protect you,’ you know, but also asking him to delete the messages and not speak to law enforcement. So, there’s this heartbreaking duality that we’re seeing very tragically playing out.”

A wise Nigerian prince needs to contact this man right now. Make sure to use his secret password: "my love" and ask him about his favorite romantic crime novel...

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Cherie

This is such a sad read, three families devastated for what?

We can only hope something good comes out of it. (ie peace)

[bots]

people seem to raise these people up, implying that there comments or opinions are worth something. They are not. These news channels get very little viewer numbers. People know that their opinions are worthless. The president of the USA and his cabinet make worthless comments. People just need to have their own opinions rather than giving these people respect that they just haven't earned

[Barry.]

Originally Posted by Maru

We can only hope something good comes out of it. (ie peace)

We all know that peace will not come from this with the left/right sides of things. It’s sad but sadly it’s true

[Crimson Dynamo]

One good thing I guess is that many evil teachers, nurses and council workers have been sacked

Hopefully more to come



Oh wait..more good news

BREAKING - Arkansas leftist Kerri Rollo, who destroyed a Charlie Kirk memorial in front
of the Bentonville courthouse, has not only lost her job but has also been evicted from
her home and reduced to begging online for money, which no one is giving her.

https://x.com/Rightanglenews/status/1968331339654201810


Her parents have failed in bringing up a proper human with morals, this POS is everything wrong with leftists in 2025, Chilling Evil

[Crimson Dynamo]

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

🚨 JUST IN: Congressman Randy Fine (R-FL) demands public firing squad "for
the entire world to see" of Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson.

Originally Posted by Zizu

The public firing squad seems too much but I am definitely in favour of bringing back the death penalty … maybe in about 15 years after we have hopefully survived the upcoming civil unrest/ war ..

Utah is a very old school state, apparently. I'm not a fan of this as it's needless I think, but it is ironic that he may end up going by gunshot the way he killed his victim. I don't know that he'll get DP, though. Juries are more unpredictable when a death sentence is on the table.

A fact I didn't know, a lawyer and everyone involved has to be "death penalty" certified to go to trial. So if you see a lot of old people running the case, that's why. It's very difficult to get to that level of certification given that most trials aren't murder trials...

Originally Posted by Livia

This isn't panning out how a lot of them thought it would.

That's the point though, isn't it. Antisocial behavior has been panning out well. Only now are they willing to put some stop it because I guess finally some invisible line has been crossed...

Speaking to that, riots/uncivil discourse are easy enough to prevent, including events like Jan 6th. They had days of notice and it was very evidence not only temperatures very high, but what some people had intended to go and do if the opportunity had been presented to them. They could've had way more people staged to protect the Capital. Why didn't they? Hmmm.

How is it after things like this happen it's very easy to find or have seen the origins of it on social media. People were posting about this shooting before it even happened.

Law enforcement have better tools than us for scouring social media. They can't catch everything, of course, but that's why they can't let this behavior fester and fester. It's easier to tell if someone is actually planning something if they're not sifting through thousands of profiles of other people sh**posting as self-proclaimed "revolutionaries".

That's the one issue I have with this is, is suddenly media/politicians are pretending they didn't know 1) this could happen and 2) where and when it was likely to happen. They knew something was inevitably going to happen, obviously. Yet they continued to roll the dive every time they encouraged or sewed discord. To restrict their police and change the rules so that they do the bare minimum also incentivized it... and are now they pretend to be shocked to find out that people are even more willing to go beyond the lines they have set...

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

🚨 JUST IN: Congressman Randy Fine (R-FL) demands public firing squad "for
the entire world to see" of Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson.

Not very Christian

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Not very Christian

Get to Church young man

(Matthew 26, 26:52): "Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into
his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword."

[bots]

firing squad is probably quite likely given the aversion to other methods currently. Can't see it being broadcast live though .... wouldn't that be an offence toward kids in the state

[Glenn.]

The text “conversation” was run through AI and it pretty much said it was fake.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

The text “conversation” was run through AI and it pretty much said it was fake.

The FBI's entire investigation of this has been sus, both sides are noticing.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Barry.

We all know that peace will not come from this with the left/right sides of things. It’s sad but sadly it’s true

If you're only reading this discourse through social media, then yes, I can understand why you may believe that this is the real dynamic...


Saving others from scrolling:

Spoiler:

My impression has been most people do not care about a left/right posture, or the ping pong effect of online discourse. They're much more concerned about a handful of issues and that's it. That's primarily what causes them to vote one way or the other. Other reasons might be more visceral, like they don't like the stances they perceive to be taken as hostile to them from one side or the other... especially anything identity-based.

"People on the left" include hardcore ideologues, sure, but a lot of times it just includes more people who have a handful of issues most close to them... that would include transgender rights or things like abortion. For them, this is their "common sense".

They probably don't care as much about anti-Capitalistic-style rhetoric, but they're easier to convince yeah well let's try something else... do they actually fall within the category of wanting to dismantle the ENTIRE system when polled? Very likely not, but more than the right obviously.

The other alternative is that some people who have felt maligned for holding certain views, yes they're going to "fall into" one side or the other either to portray "Hey, this is still a reasonable take to me... here's a thoughtful meme" or "here's a meme or video that's going to piss you off... **** off to everyone trying to say otherwise"... that crowd is easier to push towards voting down a party line.

The same dynamic holds for the right generally, but in differing ways...

(Trying to keep the post shorter, sorry)

There's very few people I've talked to can disagree on very basic things without personal issues developing. Yet, most every person I've seen disagree and malign others in intolerant ways 1) has been on online or on a local social media site and 2) are all getting their talking points from political discourse they've almost 100% seen only online... And it's very obvious that's true because it's easy enough to to just check the current algorithms in social media and see that these same talking points are spreading everywhere... so they're taking their personal notes from online and not people they actually know on either side of the spectrum.

I often poll people who are similar to me in thinking and one would think we would more likely vote on the same things in the same manner. Surprisingly, that's almost never true. I think it's largely because there's still a majority of people who don't take views from online, and so don't use that in deciding how to vote. Often I know more than they do about some things and I usually only pay the minimum amount of attention to social media feeds. Unless there's something going on like a court case, major event, etc. (Other people are probably similar)

So, I don't give anonymous posters that much credence because we underestimate just how differently most people interact with each other once screens are removed...


Ironically, what makes events like the one Charlie Kirk did so critical to getting a better picture, was because we could see what people actually believed and why they believed it. The most rabid of any end of that doesn't tend to have strong debate skills and they're often relying too heavily on things they're told. Then there are dozens of others that came to the table and were able to have a reasonable discussion, decipher talking points for themselves and illustrate their own viewpoint separate from that and amazingly, it didn't sound like the average X feed.. so we have to ask how much of the "rabid" variety are really representative of a reasonable dynamic. I personally believe having grown up during a time when the internet was really young, online "debate" pushes more reasoned debaters to the sidelines (kinda like SD does this..) as who can argue with a mob?... so we can't really expect that social media will reflect an accurate picture of where people actually sit...

If it did, elections would be easier to predict.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by bots

firing squad is probably quite likely given the aversion to other methods currently. Can't see it being broadcast live though .... wouldn't that be an offence toward kids in the state

Last execution was 2010 and no, they're not televised.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Maru

Last execution was 2010 and no, they're not televised.

It should be

[Maru]

Student no longer at Texas State after actions at Charlie Kirk memorial event
https://www.fox26houston.com/news/te...ource=facebook

SAN MARCOS, Texas - Governor Greg Abbott called on Texas State to expel a student over the student's actions that were caught on video at a Charlie Kirk memorial event.

What they're saying:

Texas State President Dr. Kelly Damphousse released a statement on social media saying:

"I am aware of the disturbing video that was taken at an event on our San Marcos campus on Monday. I have directed university officials to take immediate steps to identify the individual in the video. Behavior that trivializes or promotes violence is reprehensible and violates the values of TXST. It will not be tolerated. If this individual is found to be affiliated with TXST, appropriate action will be taken. Let me be clear: expressions that glorify violence or murder have no place on our campuses."

Finally.

[emseateng2014]

if it was on live on tv its most likely gonna be on right wing media channels like fox news newmax and oan

Originally Posted by bots

firing squad is probably quite likely given the aversion to other methods currently. Can't see it being broadcast live though .... wouldn't that be an offence toward kids in the state

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'd force it to be shown on that scumbag Jimmy Kimmel's show on repeat for 2 months straight

[Maru]

Local Sheriffs office felt compelled to do a press conference...

Youtube video

Charlie Kirk investigation: Patel testifies before House on alleged killer Tyler Robinson's capture
https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/ch...tion-9-17-2025

The family of suspected Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson need to stay out of the public eye for a while, authorities said, Wednesday.

"They need to lay low for a long time, unfortunately," Washington County Sheriff Nate Brooksby told reporters during a news conference after being asked about the family of Tyler Robinson.

"So even, I'll throw this out there. I have a second cousin with the last name Robinson, who happens to be an optometrist in town, and, he's his office has been receiving threatening phone calls," Brooksby added.

"Just give his last name. So. So to put somebody in that kind of, burden, it's burdensome situation when they had nothing to do with it. No relation to the family. Just just think about how the actual individuals involved in this incident are feeling right now."

I haven't watched the whole thing yet but yikes.

[emseateng2014]

late night with jimmy kimmel is gone

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-comments.html

[Maru]

West Hollywood faces fierce backlash for lowering flags to honor Charlie Kirk
https://www.foxnews.com/media/west-h...r-charlie-kirk

West Hollywood issued a statement Sunday after the California city faced backlash for lowering flags to half-staff in response to a presidential proclamation to pay tribute to Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk.

After Kirk was assassinated during a campus event at Utah Valley University last week, President Donald Trump issued a proclamation ordering the U.S. flags on the White House and all public buildings and grounds to be lowered to half-staff to honor the conservative activist.

The California city was criticized after following this order, as well as lowering the Transgender Flag and Pride Progress Flag at Matthew Shepard Square. A sign was erected in the square in protest of the decision.

[Maru]

‘This is our Happy Valley’: Students returning to Utah Valley University reckon with their campus becoming Kirk crime scene
https://www.sltrib.com/news/educatio...ey-university/



They've already paved over his spot...

Nearly every student who walked by on their way to class at Utah Valley University early Wednesday stopped for a minute at the spot where everything changed.

A week ago, political commentator Charlie Kirk had been speaking in this campus courtyard when a single shot rang out, striking and killing him. Now, the place where he spoke is surrounded by a thick metal fence as officers patrol nearby.

The loudest sounds were whispers Wednesday, quietly shared below a new, 25-foot tall American flag that hangs over the solemn space.

“I think a lot of people are scared to return,” said Raymond Lopez, a 26-year-old pre-health student at UVU.

Spoiler:

Wednesday marked the first day back for students at the Orem school, returning to a campus they say feels markedly different.

“It was really a tragedy for our community. This is our Happy Valley,” Lopez added. He sat on a purple couch near the campus entrance, holding a sign that offered free hugs, hoping to comfort his classmates.

Makeshift memorials to Kirk popped up in various spots, with smaller American flags, handmade drawings of Kirk, roses, carnations and boxes of fresh blueberries — which Kirk’s widow, Erika, has said were a family favorite. Chalk messages covered many of the sidewalks, noting, “Violence is not the answer.”

Some added more offerings to the growing piles. Others wiped away tears. One person whistled “The Star Spangled Banner.”

UVU President Astrid Tuminez said she wants those on campus “to feel what they need to feel” in the aftermath. She waved to students and hugged several.

“It will take time for everybody to feel that confidence again,” Tuminez said.

The school has added extra security officers from agencies across Utah County. Tens of squad cars surrounded the entrances to campus parking lots, and a uniformed officer walked in nearly every sightline.

One security guard paced around inside by the school’s wolverine statue, UVU’s mascot.

A message directing students to report anything they know to the FBI still appeared on digital screens on campus, where more than 46,000 students attend.

UVU is offering extended mental health resources for anyone who needs to talk. Signs pointed the direction to counselors, who will be available to students and employees each day this week, from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. at the Sorensen Center.

Tuminez, whose seven-year anniversary at the helm of the school is Thursday, said, “This is a time when the resources of this university will not be enough.”

The school is receiving additional help from the state health department and Wasatch Mental Health Services to add to its own battery of counselors.

The university has also set up 24 “care stations” across campus. At each, there are information sheets about responding to trauma and scannable QR codes to see additional options for help.

Those had first been set up during the COVID-19 pandemic to keep students informed, said Kyle Reyes, the school’s vice president for institutional advancement. The university has since kept the tables going at the start of each semester.

Now, Reyes says, they are there as students navigate a new normal.

“We’re doing our best to keep our ear to the ground for how students are feeling,” he said.

The school, he added, is focused on “a safe return” to campus. “We’re taking every precaution.”

Students said they felt some comfort seeing the extra officers and knowing there was help on hand.

“School has always been so safe, and this safe space was violated,” said Laila England, 18, a UVU student in emergency services.

She said returning to campus has been a blur. “My whole body’s been in fight-or-flight mode all day, from the moment I stepped off the train,” England added.

She stood at one of the makeshift memorials with her friends, Isabelle Bird and Caden Tomseth, also both 18.

Bird said she had a panic attack in her car before walking to class this morning. She called her mom and said, “I literally can’t do this.”

“It’s just a shaky, empty feeling returning,” Bird added.

Tomseth said he cried seeing all the tributes to Kirk. “He was a hero to me. He inspired me and so many others our age,” he said.

All three said they were glad to see students coming together, instead of divides deepening. One student handed out heart stickers in green, UVU’s school color.

Reyes said the university is ensuring there is flexibility for students who are feeling fearful about returning to campus, including extending when it’s OK to drop classes and letting professors give students more time to complete assignments.

In the fallout, too, Tuminez said she wants to harness the power of the university to teach students about healthy dialogue and discussion and “love being stronger than fear.”

“I don’t mean that as a line of poetry,” she said. “I mean it as a practice.”

Those skills, Tuminez said, include having a debate without turning to hate and learning “to expel extremism.” The president said she’s taken to heart the calls for unity from Utah Gov. Spencer Cox, who made a brief appearance on campus Wednesday.

“All I care about is you are American, you are Utahns,” Cox told one group of students who cheered when he was done speaking.

Madison Wheat, an 18-year-old UVU student studying sociology, welcomes that. She wrote a green-chalk message on a campus sidewalk that read: “Everything will be OK.”

Wheat had been at the Kirk event on Sept. 10 and pointed to the spot in the courtyard where she’d been standing, about 50 feet from Kirk.

“The day of the shooting, I realized anyone could choose to hurt you,” she said. “But in the following days, I learned anyone could choose to be kind to you. I think we should all choose to be kind.”

She said she felt braver Wednesday seeing her classmates also return to that place.

Archaeology student Caden Benson, 24, remembers hearing the gunshot, too, and running. He said he’s been reflecting on how he’d like the world to be.

“You don’t have to take that bad as if that’s how it should be,” he said.

The person charged in the shooting, Tyler James Robinson, allegedly told family members he disagreed with Kirk about LGBTQ+ topics. In a text after the shooting to his roommate, whom authorities say was in a “romantic relationship” with Robinson and who is transgender, Robinson allegedly wrote: “I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can’t be negotiated out.”

Robinson is currently being held at the Utah County jail without bail. Crime-scene tape that once wrapped around the Losee Center, where Robinson allegedly fired from, had since been taken down as employees began returning to their offices there.

Benson gathered with other students just beyond the closed courtyard to look down at where Kirk had spoken.

The school has since repaved the spot where Kirk spoke before he was shot. The university is also reviewing its security measures, Tuminez said, to see what it could have done better.

The courtyard will also reopen, in time, she said. “It’s all being informed by security expertise.”

For now, a small sign taped to one of the metal posts barring access read, “Smile despite the darkness.”

[Maru]

Nexstar ABC Affiliates To Preempt “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” Indefinitely Beginning Tonight
https://www.nexstar.tv/nexstar-abc-a...nning-tonight/

Company Objects to Talk Show Host’s Comments on Killing of Charlie Kirk

IRVING, TX (Sept. 17, 2025)—Nexstar Media Group, Inc. (NASDAQ: NXST), today announced that the company’s owned and partner television stations affiliated with the ABC Television Network will preempt “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” for the foreseeable future beginning with tonight’s show. Nexstar strongly objects to recent comments made by Mr. Kimmel concerning the killing of Charlie Kirk and will replace the show with other programming in its ABC-affiliated markets.

“Mr. Kimmel’s comments about the death of Mr. Kirk are offensive and insensitive at a critical time in our national political discourse, and we do not believe they reflect the spectrum of opinions, views, or values of the local communities in which we are located,” said Andrew Alford, President of Nexstar’s broadcasting division. “Continuing to give Mr. Kimmel a broadcast platform in the communities we serve is simply not in the public interest at the current time, and we have made the difficult decision to preempt his show in an effort to let cooler heads prevail as we move toward the resumption of respectful, constructive dialogue.”

[Glenn.]

ABC has pulled late-night host Jimmy Kimmel off air indefinitely over comments he made about the shooting of right-wing influencer Charlie Kirk.
"Jimmy Kimmel Live will be pre-empted indefinitely," a spokesperson for the Disney-owned network said in a statement to the BBC.
On Monday night's monologue, Kimmel said the "MAGA gang" was trying to score political points off Kirk's murder.
On Tuesday, a 22-year-old suspect appeared in court charged with aggravated murder over last Wednesday's shooting of the 31-year-old conservative influencer. Representatives for Kimmel did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
Kimmel said in his Monday night monologue: "The Maga Gang desperately trying to characterise this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it."
The late-night host, who has frequently been in the crosshairs of US President Donald Trump, also criticised flags being flown at half staff in honour of Kirk, and mocked the president's reaction to the shooting.
He spliced a clip of the president speaking with reporters about his reaction to Kirk's death, and redirecting to talk about a ballroom being built at the White House.
"He's at the fourth stage of grief," Kimmel said. "Construction. It's demolition, construction.
"This is not how an adult grieves the murder of someone he calls a friend. This is how a four-year-old mourns a gold fish."
Also on Wednesday, the chair of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), Brendan Carr, said on a podcast that Kimmel's remarks showed "the sickest conduct possible" as he urged Disney to take action.
"[Broadcasters] have a license granted by us at the FCC, and that comes with it an obligation to operate in the public interest," said Carr, a Trump-appointee.
"Look, we can do this the easy way or the hard way. These companies can find ways to change conduct, to take action, frankly, on Kimmel, or, you know, there's going to be additional work for the FCC ahead," Carr told the Benny Show.
He noted that an apology from Kimmel would be a "very reasonable, minimal step".
The ABC announcement came just after one of the biggest owners of TV stations in the US, Nexstar Media, said it would not air Jimmy Kimmel Live! "for the foreseeable future beginning with tonight's show".
Nexstar said on Wednesday evening that the comedian's remarks about Kirk "are offensive and insensitive at a critical time in our national political discourse".
"[W]e do not believe they reflect the spectrum of opinions, views, or values of the local communities in which we are located," said Andrew Alford, president of Nexstar's broadcasting division.
"Continuing to give Mr Kimmel a broadcast platform in the communities we serve is simply not in the public interest at the current time, and we have made the difficult decision to preempt his show in an effort to let cooler heads prevail as we move toward the resumption of respectful, constructive dialogue."