[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Bill has a wide variety of views on his shows - you should watch some as you may learn about different viewpoints to your own.

I find that valuable

Yet the only ones you have shared are those talking negatively about trans people which is your go to topic.

I’m economically right-wing and socially left-wing - that’s not a combination I have come to by listening to an echo chamber.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Yet the only ones you have shared are those talking negatively about trans people which is your go to topic.

I’m economically right-wing and socially left-wing - that’s not a combination I have come to by listening to an echo chamber.

Surely you don't rely on more for your viewing pleasure

Go out and broaden your mind and use google

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Because you constantly say that trans women and the LGBT to speak up on the crimes being committed by them, while I have never seen you put the onus on the straight, cis male community to speak up even though it's their demographic doing it, that's why.

The articles aren't posted with good intention to shine a spotlight on the crimes of men and how it's awful for both women and trans women, they are posted with the intention to say "this is why the 'trans movement' is problematic'. The messaging is just a way to **** on trans people rather than to call out yet another issue straight cis men have created.

Transwomen say they are women, yet will not stand with women, why would men get involved its not their problem that some other men want to take advantage of self ID, its a problem for women and for actual transwomen, women dont need men to fight their battles, but its a mystery to me why transwomen let men walk all over them by jumping on the bandwagon for their own gain

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Transwomen say they are women, yet will not stand with women, why would men get involved its not their problem that some other men want to take advantage of self ID, its a problem for women and for actual transwomen, women dont need men to fight their battles, but its a mystery to me why transwomen let men walk all over them by jumping on the bandwagon for their own gain

I see what you're saying, but I view it not so much about men fighting women's battles, but men holding other men accountable.

Away from the trans issue for example, women already talk about violence and sexism against women as an issue and society, right so, implores men to do the same. Someone who wants to harm women and who is a sexist pig isn't going to listen to women speaking about issues affecting them - much less trans women - but they are (unfortunately, really) more likely to listen to their fellow men and so for me, the change comes from within the demographic of those committing the act to talk out against it, rather than the victims of the act.

I appreciate on wider topics, where there is no clear defined group of people who are culpable - such as homophobia, which can come from anyone - it's important for the group affected to speak out and raise awareness - but when the issue is coming from one demographic - straight men in this case - it's up to people within that community to call out any behaviour their friends or colleagues etc... may exhibit that makes them a danger towards women.

Having said all that, cis men co-opting trans women's identities to attack other women is rare. That's not to downplay it, because any attack is horrendous, but because there is so much conversation about it, it's worth reminding people it shouldn't be the focus because otherwise we are at risk of forgetting the actual bigger risks.

That's why discussing this topic on here feels disingenuous. There is so much conversation about the safety of women and girls and yet conversation around the main culprits is so often ignored (not specifically from you) or misdirected.

I outlined exactly who women are at risk from and none of the loudest proponents of women's safety acknowledged the statistics, nobody say a thing about the men on the march telling women to get their tits out, nobody said anything about a woman being more likely to be murdered by her son than a stranger, nobody said anything about a large proportion of the men campaigning against migrants in the name of safety of women and girls being known to police for domestic violence accusations, nobody acknowledged the sexism and violence against women that runs through people who identify politically as right-wing and nobody who supports Tommy Robinson for example acknowledged his past indiscretions when it comes to women in a thread supporting his march and those on it.

Instead the posts were ignored and the conversation was shifted to calling for Ant Middleton - a man who has a conviction for assaulting a female police officer - to become Mayor, grooming gangs, or more bizarrely was shifted to talking about the domestic violence rates within gay relationships.

I know those didn't come from you and I am not asking you to defend or critique those members or take accountability for them, I'm just using it as a live example of how it's impossible to have an honest conversation about the safety of women when the main risk towards women is constantly ignored by the demographic who are the main cause of it.

I fail to believe anyone who supports the likes of your Tommy Robinson's, Nigel Farage's, Charlie Kirks or Donald Trumps, who turns around and whose only conversation about the safety of women and girls is when it's related to 'trans' people or minorities is being honest about their care for the topic at hand. They are using it - using the subject of women being assaulted - as examples to affirm why their negative viewpoints about minorities are correct. How anyone can align themselves with these members and believe they have a shared interest is women is baffling to me.

That isn't me blaming you for their viewpoints, but it is me highlighting the reason I find it strange you (and Livia) are always happy to call me out on the subject while standing in support of them.

I believe you and I (and Livia) have far more in common when it comes to actually caring about women than perhaps you would think.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bots

what i see here is the same old problem on repeat. A bunch of guys saying what is and is not acceptable regarding laws/rules toward women. Give yourselves a shake

The supreme court already clarified the law.

We all know the law.

But like everything that Starmer does he has created a problem within this particular law, and it is fair to question if it's right to have Transwomen (who don't have a penis anymore) being in bathrooms and changing rooms with men.

Obviously there were problems with perverts pretending to be Transgender to access women's bathrooms before, I do understand that.

My point is that Starmer/Labour need to find a solution that endangers nobody towards being in a vulnerable situation with a sex pest.

These are the types of situations that Starmer needs to show why he should be the leader of the Labour Party, and why it was right for the public to have elected him against Sunak.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

If you are a lone 5 foot woman in a bathroom and a 6 foot 2 man in a wig walks in. How do you know he has?

That's a fair point.

And that's why we have politicians to help come up with the solutions for us.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by bots

what i see here is the same old problem on repeat. A bunch of guys saying what is and is not acceptable regarding laws/rules toward women. Give yourselves a shake

The supreme court already clarified the law.

"What i see here is the same old problem on repeat. A bunch of men straight people saying what is and is not acceptable regarding laws/rules toward women LGBT people. Give yourselves a shake"

[bots]

Originally Posted by BBXX

"What i see here is the same old problem on repeat. A bunch of men straight people saying what is and is not acceptable regarding laws/rules toward women LGBT people. Give yourselves a shake"

you've had plenty to say in this thread

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by bots

you've had plenty to say in this thread

99% of which is defending trans people. Kind of backs up my point.

[bots]

Originally Posted by BBXX

99% of which is defending trans people. Kind of backs up my point.

and ignoring women, which was my precise point

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by bots

and ignoring women, which was my precise point

Not letting trans people get **** on doesn't equal ignoring women, which is why I talk about the important of the safety of women on here a lot. You just don't like where I point the finger of where they are most at risk.

[Livia]

The claim that we don't care about straight, white sex attackers and give them a pass on here is just baiting. Especially from someone who later claims to care about the safety of women. It's self-promoting, self-righteous bullsh1t.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Not letting trans people get **** on doesn't equal ignoring women, which is why I talk about the important of the safety of women on here a lot. You just don't like where I point the finger of where they are most at risk.

Women have always been most at risk from Men when you have transwomen encouraging the public to punch women in the face purely due to protected rights being hijacked unfortunately we can not count on them either

[Crimson Dynamo]

[Livia]

JK... What a goddess.

[Vicky.]

I love her

[Crimson Dynamo]

She is brilliant

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

We need to educate people like slim, it’s not rocket science
If you got a cock and a pair of balls you ain’t a woman

Sometimes the truth hurts

If you're going to outsource your replies to me to LT *posts* (yeah, right) tweets, don't bring me up in posts replying to other people.

This was not happening at any point until folks started hysterically pushing this out into the public domain. It just wasn't. Why do you think that predators might cling on to an excuse provided to them by those that oppose the existence of trans people?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Livia

I note it's mostly men who support trans women. Thank goodness for the men who stand by us.

Not true. Trans acceptance is highest amongst lesbians.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Scottish schools must have separate toilets for boys and girls




New guidance issued by Holyrood ministers says that facilities must be made
available on the basis of biological sex, but that schools can also provide gender
neutral toilets.

Schools had previously been told that transgender pupils could use whatever
toilets they felt most comfortable in.

The updated Scottish government guidance, external says that under the law
toilet facilities must be "made available on the basis of biological sex".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/...team=editorial

[Vicky.]

Sex segregated PLUS mixed sex is a good solution

[Livia]

I see JK has finally thrown a grenade back at awful Emma Watson today. About time, I say.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Livia

I see JK has finally thrown a grenade back at awful Emma Watson today. About time, I say.

she evicerated her

but then again its not hard

She is as thick as mince

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

she evicerated her

but then again its not hard

She is as thick as mince

It reminded me of when you see some poor sap on TV try to verbally better a stand up comedian. It's never going to happen. And Watson's babbling word salad against JK's eloquence is painful to read. Well, almost...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Graham Linehan 🎗️
@Glinner
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Stoke-on Trent police endangering the life of a troubled man by asking the
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