[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Abra

Not directing this at you, but it's just funny to me how the right wing spend their time being utterly obsessed with trans people and never stop banging on about them and then as soon as trans people themselves speak about themselves they go "stop talking about it!".

People aren't bothered about trans issues being discussed. They are bothered when trans people have a seat at the table to join in the conversation. Maybe they are worried that if their voices are heard then their demonisation doesn't work anymore.

In fairness to Zelah, he isn't the only one who is talking identify politics. How many times do we need to hear George going on about how much he hates the left because of female pop stars or because of the misinformation he's heard about refugees or whatever it is this time? That has essentially been George's entire personality so far.

I don't take it personally, I do actually have some left wing views as well, so all good

What I will say though is that no one cared about trans issues until trans lobbyists started to get aggressive with it. I grew up in a gay household and characters like Quentin Crisp were part of my upbringing, I am so used to the trans conversation.

The rise in more right wing views in the mainstream, IMO, is directly due to the push of the hardcore woke wing of the left. As ever, the radical left creates it's own enemies.

Yes, George speaks (albeit somewhat clumsily) from a more right wing perspective, and you are right, I do give him more room because I broadly agree with him. But, I think that is because we have spent the last 20 years with his views not being allowed so it's still refreshing.

If that makes sense?

[Crimson Dynamo]

There is speaking
and there is spouting worn ideology cut and paste from the Trans manifesto

People who are engaged have heard it all before

this isnt 2020

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

There is speaking
and there is spouting worn ideology cut and paste from the Trans manifesto

People who are engaged have heard it all before

this isnt 2020

2016*

Christ.. even 2015.. I remember youtube ain that era... better times.

[Livia]

People don't have enough to do. Everything's laid on for them, everything's available at the flick of a switch or the click of a button, life's easy. If you don't believe that, you're probably under 20. People have all the time in the world to fixate on their mental health problems and to bang on about them like everyone else is endlessly fascinated with you. We're not.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Abra

Not directing this at you, but it's just funny to me how the right wing spend their time being utterly obsessed with trans people and never stop banging on about them and then as soon as trans people themselves speak about themselves they go "stop talking about it!".

People aren't bothered about trans issues being discussed. They are bothered when trans people have a seat at the table to join in the conversation. Maybe they are worried that if their voices are heard then their demonisation doesn't work anymore.

In fairness to Zelah, he isn't the only one who is talking identify politics. How many times do we need to hear George going on about how much he hates the left because of female pop stars or because of the misinformation he's heard about refugees or whatever it is this time? That has essentially been George's entire personality so far.

Some good points
Tbh I hope we get different conversations other than politics. As it can get exhausting.

Apparently they were playing party games on LF and generally having silly fun , I wonder if we'll see any of it in HL .

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Some good points
Tbh I hope we get different conversations other than politics. As it can get exhausting.

Apparently they were playing party games on LF and generally having silly fun , I wonder if we'll see any of it in HL .

You can bet it will be part 43 of zelah's "journey" - how I overcame the haterz by listening to Taylor Swift and having a seaweed facial

zzzz

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

what she got on her head

Keeping her Hair out the Video

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Abra

Similar to how every time George is on screen he's whining on about how too "woke" the world is and how evil lefties are to blame for everything or whatever.

The series has been pretty balanced so far imo

And in fairness to Zelah, it is early days in the show and he is opening up to people.

Tbf, you're right about George.

It's starting to really piss me off about him.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf, you're right about George.

It's starting to really piss me off about him.

He’s presumably seen how well the people like Olivia did by being loud , rude , outspoken and controversial ..


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[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

He’s presumably seen how well the people like Olivia did by being loud , rude , outspoken and controversial ..


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I didn't watch that series.

Was Olivia only banging on about one topic all of the time?

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Abra

You're so obsessed with trans people

This.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Livia

People don't have enough to do. Everything's laid on for them, everything's available at the flick of a switch or the click of a button, life's easy. If you don't believe that, you're probably under 20. People have all the time in the world to fixate on their mental health problems and to bang on about them like everyone else is endlessly fascinated with you. We're not.

There is a truth here for sure.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

This.

*Friends*

[Glenn.]

You’re a grown man.

Carry on letting the trans man live rent free I guess.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Carry on letting the trans man live rent free I guess.

As soon as he, or you, shuts up about it so will we.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by vesavius

As soon as he, or you, shuts up about it so will we.

Sweetheart, I haven’t said anything

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Sweetheart, I haven’t said anything

Darling, of course you have.

[Glenn.]

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Well, making the crazy sign like that is not very progressive of you is it?

Be better Glenn. It's not too late to educate yourself. It's the current year.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

You can bet it will be part 43 of zelah's "journey" - how I overcame the haterz by listening to Taylor Swift and having a seaweed facial

zzzz

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Sweetheart, I haven’t said anything

Did you learn nothing from last nights episode apart from the perceived homophobia, maybe open you mind to how Jenny reacted to be called luv and how most of the other HMs deemed it disrespectful in the context it was said.