[Livia]

Originally Posted by Zizu

The truth hurts sadly ,.. he’s a known womaniser and if anyone denies that then they are clearly delusional ..

Whilst adding notches to his bed head he was famously chasing /pestering the 3 Degrees singer Sheila Ferguson for many years

I'm denying it, are you calling me delusional! Ha! That's rich...

You are a swallower and a peddler of gossip, like a bloody old woman. It's nonsense...

[Urban Cragou]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm denying it, are you calling me delusional! Ha! That's rich...

You are a swallower and a peddler of gossip, like a bloody old woman. It's nonsense...

I think Zizu’s definition of delusional is someone who says anything he doesn’t want to hear. I’m really trying not to disparage much or be any harsher than I need to but I just don’t see the value in this Camilla-vendetta he has. None of it makes sense or seems to really mean anything tangible. It’s all based on Internet-gossip. It’s pretty frustrating when people talk as-if they know any of these people personally.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

I think Charles once said he liked the 3 Degrees singer but it was nothing ever more than that as I recall

[bots]

Originally Posted by Christmas Dynasnow

I think Charles once said he liked the 3 Degrees singer but it was nothing ever more than that as I recall

He also liked Shirley Bassey as I recall

[emseateng2014]

i wonder if more brits watched the jimmy kimmel verison

[Ray.]

Almost certainly not

[arista]

Originally Posted by emseateng2014

i wonder if more brits watched the jimmy kimmel verison

I recorded it on Ch4

Not very good.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Christmas Dynasnow

I think Charles once said he liked the 3 Degrees singer but it was nothing ever more than that as I recall

Slightly more than you recall ..


Miss Ferguson says she will soon disclose the secrets of their relationship in her autobiography – although admits she has not started writing it.

She has always made clear that there was no romantic involvement, although Charles, who had met the band before, invited the Three Degrees to perform at his 30th birthday party in November 1978 – and is said to have been so besotted with Miss Ferguson that he made amorous advances for years and years



Sheila Ferguson and Prince Charles (now King Charles III) had a flirtatious friendship starting after her group performed at his 30th birthday in 1978, involving witty banter, shared dancing, and exchanging letters, though she insists they never slept together, viewing him as a playboy and valuing herself too much to be a "notch on his bedpost," a relationship that created media buzz and reportedly complicated her dating life later

Correspondence: They exchanged letters, which Ferguson has kept but won't publish, alluding to his flirtatious style


She was the Seventies soul star who captivated the heir to the throne. Now Three Degrees singer Sheila Ferguson is finally ready to reveal the truth about her enduring friendship with Prince Charles.

[bots]

well she hasn't revealed anything in 40 years and she is certainly in a position to do so if there was any wrong doing

[Livia]

Zizu and his nonsense back on ignore, I'm afraid.

[Zizu]

Are you guys seriously doubting that Charles was a womaniser ??


There’s no hope …


He’s basically known for two things .. womanising and talking to his plants


Charles and Camilla deserve each other

https://www.latintimes.com/how-charl...elative-442607

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[Urban Cragou]

Originally Posted by Livia

Zizu and his nonsense back on ignore, I'm afraid.

Sometimes it’s necessary for one’s sanity. Zizu can’t change, no-matter how much you try and be less frustrated with him, or not. His mind’s set, for better or worse, and there’s no convincing him otherwise. It’s all black-and-white to him, with no room for relational nuance or flexibility.

[Yuki Maru Hoshi]

I thought it was a good speech. It was one he had to make considering all his options, but genuinely I didn't hear anything that was insulting in the message. Parts of it felt like propaganda as if it were an ad for the monarchy but I didn't think there was a connection being made to general politics. Look at all the stuff we've been doing with your taxpayer money, etc.

I agree that it does ignore the self-censorship trap that has rotted everything from within as a culture. More and more people on average simply couldn't care less about the simplest of social boundaries and even basic courtesy. It's like a pushback against social order itself as that has been taken for granted for so long thanks to a complacent leadership that neglects all major issues. Major issues that most people care about, some of which that go beyond even just economics.

The government wants a compliant populace from its own standpoint arguing that it will make it the most effective, when it's already had that era. Monarchy of course will get blamed since it operates in connection with "best governing". People will always be sensitive to directives that they sense operate against its own interests. This is normal. So I don't think Charles can win over new minds with arguments about shared virtues across the "cultural divide" or whatever when those times are now long past. It'll appeal to people who wish to hang onto to the best of what we are even during what is a difficult season for many. So I thought the message spoke to this and so accomplished it's most basic purpose, which was to point to aspects that could uplift as much as it possibly could.

Our culture is dying a natural death and it's not an immigration issue imo. The problems have run deeper and some of those can be pointed to the State. However, unmanaged immigration certainly adds strains to vital systems that people are dependent on and encroaches on lifestyles that people have grown attached to that helped them to weather difficult seasons in the past. Especially those who have felt the world is changing far too rapidly in a wrong direction for their liking. I think it is warranted and a normal feeling to have, but I question if maybe it is futile to keep looking back. My main worry is that the government is not responsible or accountable enough to handle the social issues effectively enough at this point that it will just keep exacerbating these issues. There's a benefit for govt to allow these divisions to continue to fester as it's much easier to campaign on the problems it creates, rather than closing the gap finally and creating solutions to resolve them because those solutions will be politically expensive, either way.

Charles will be more concerned about his legacy as his reign could be cut short very easily and so he would want to be on the right track so when he does go, it's on his terms as far as he's concerned... that said, I always thought he was a bit New Age-y and multicultural by nature, so his message seemed about right in that respect. As a casual American viewer, anyway...

[Urban Cragou]

Originally Posted by Yuki Maru Hoshi

I thought it was a good speech. It was one he had to make considering all his options, but genuinely I didn't hear anything that was insulting in the message. Parts of it felt like propaganda as if it were an ad for the monarchy but I didn't think there was a connection being made to general politics. Look at all the stuff we've been doing with your taxpayer money, etc.

I agree that it does ignore the self-censorship trap that has rotted everything from within as a culture. More and more people on average simply couldn't care less about the simplest of social boundaries and even basic courtesy. It's like a pushback against social order itself as that has been taken for granted for so long in lieu of a complacent leadership that takes all major issues for granted. Major issues that most people care about, some of which that go beyond even just economics.

The government wants a compliant populace from its own standpoint arguing that it will make it the most effective, when it's already had that era. Monarchy of course will get blamed since it operates in connection with "best governing". People will always be sensitive to directives that they sense operate against its own interests. This is normal. So I don't think Charles can win over new minds with arguments about shared virtues across the "cultural divide" or whatever when those times are now long past. It'll appeal to people who wish to hang onto to the best of what we are even during what is a difficult season for many. So I thought the message spoke to this and so accomplished it's most basic purpose, which was to point to aspects that could uplift as much as it possibly could.

Our culture is dying a natural death and it's not an immigration issue imo. The problems have run deeper and some of those can be pointed to the State. However, unmanaged immigration certainly adds strains to vital systems that people are dependent on and encroaches on lifestyles that people have grown attached to that helped them to weather difficult seasons in the past. Especially those who have felt the world is changing far too rapidly in a wrong direction for their liking. I think it is warranted and a normal feeling to have, but I question if maybe it is futile to keep looking back. My main worry is that the government is not responsible or accountable enough to handle the social issues effectively enough at this point that it will just keep exacerbating these issues. There's a benefit for govt to allow these divisions to continue to fester as it's much easier to campaign on the problems it creates, rather than closing the gap finally and creating solutions to resolve them because those solutions will be politically expensive, either way.

Charles will be more concerned about his legacy as his reign could be cut short very easily and so he would want to be on the right track so when he does go, it's on his terms as far as he's concerned... that said, I always thought he was a bit New Age-y and multicultural by nature, so his message seemed about right in that respect. As a casual American viewer, anyway...

Britain’s in a bad way. You certainly got that right.