[Parmy]

Originally Posted by bots

the usa already have troops in greenland. They have no need to invade, and yet here we are

Where are we, there is no plan to invade

Yes they say they may have to, but that would only happen if Russia made the first step towards major escalation. It would only happen if Russia did that, america are very truthfull about the need to bolster western defences in Greenland. So isn't it better to do that now considering the actions of Putin, rather than letting Putin think he can please himself in that area.


It's not a threat to invade Greenland, it's a heads up to the fact that that will happen if russia eacalates. It will hqooen becauae it will have to happen to ensure the areas safety from the Russian aggression.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Parmy

Where are we, there is no plan to invade

Yes they say they may have to, but that would only happen if Russia made the first step towards major escalation. It would only happen if Russia did that, america are very truthfull about the need to bolster western defences in Greenland. So isn't it better to do that now considering the actions of Putin, rather than letting Putin think he can please himself in that area.


It's not a threat to invade Greenland, it's a heads up to the fact that that will happen if russia eacalates. It will hqooen becauae it will have to happen to ensure the areas safety from the Russian aggression.

If this is true, why wasn't Trump stronger in his reaction to Russia's continuing occupation and bombardment of Ukraine? He did the old pals act with Putin. He's still doing it.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Livia

If this is true, why wasn't Trump stronger in his reaction to Russia's continuing occupation and bombardment of Ukraine? He did the old pals act with Putin. He's still doing it.

You don't want to be poking the beast.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Parmy

The Danes would still be in charge of the population and running of Greenland. America would be in charge of defence, which the EU and the UK, if they didn't have their fingers in their ears would understand is a very very important thing for our protection surrounding the unpredictability of Putin.


It basically must happen to ensure that safety, Russia has it to easy around the UK shores as it stands.

Trump is doing it for the minerals and shipping lanes, not for security. As I said, if it were for security Trump would be working with Denmark not against them.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Trump is doing it for the minerals and shipping lanes, not for security. As I said, if it were for security Trump would be working with Denmark not against them.

That's only being said because it's trump. Why is it not being said about the Danes?

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Parmy

That's only being said because it's trump. Why is it not being said about the Danes?

It’s been part of Danish territory for over 300 years. Not really sure what your point is.

People aren’t saying it just because it’s Trump, grow up. We’d be saying it if any country suddenly started saying they would take it from Denmark.

[Liam-]

All of this nonsense just to distract from the Epstein files and Trumps involvement in an international child sex trafficking ring

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

It’s been part of Danish territory for over 300 years. Not really sure what your point is.

People aren’t saying it just because it’s Trump, grow up. We’d be saying it if any country suddenly started saying they would take it from Denmark.

You mean it was colonized by Denmark 300 years ago after being habituated by North Americans for centuries. Only becoming Danish after world war 2.

[Parmy]

1721: Danish missionary Hans Egede arrives, marking the start of formal Danish colonization and the spread of Christianity.
1940-1945 (WWII): Denmark is occupied by Germany; the U.S. occupies Greenland to defend it, establishing military bases.
1953: Greenland becomes an integral part of Denmark, not a colony, under the Danish Constitution.


1979: Denmark grants Greenland Home Rule, establishing self-governance.
2009: Self-rule is expanded, giving Greenland control over most internal affairs, including natural resources, solidifying its status as a self-governed nation within the Kingdom of Denmark.
Today: Greenland manages its own affairs but relies on Danish financial support and maintains close ties within the Kingdom, while facing challenges like climate change.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Parmy

You mean it was colonized by Denmark 300 years ago after being habituated by North Americans for centuries. Only becoming Danish after world war 2.

Again, not sure what your point is. Are you trying to justify Trump’s comments and potential actions? If so you’ve failed.

[bots]

International law and the united nations along with every country in the world has recognised Denmark's territorial sovereignty. If Trump takes it to satisfy his own ego then he joins the list of crazy dictators and will end up being remembered as such

[Livia]

Originally Posted by bots

International law and the united nations along with every country in the world has recognised Denmark's territorial sovereignty. If Trump takes it to satisfy his own ego then he joins the list of crazy dictators and will end up being remembered as such

100%.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Livia

Trump's actions and his threats are alienating allies and putting the future of NATO at risk. The US clearly thinks that's acceptable collateral damage, which is worrying. If the US really is worried enough about Russia to enter the sovereign territory of another allied country and take it by force, you'd think Trump would have been stronger against Putin in Ukraine. But his interaction with Putin bordered on appeasement. Now he's threatening to do exactly what Putin did when he crossed the border of another country. That's what it looks like to me.

Possibly, but I don't think Trump is very good at keeping friends like this longterm. He likes appearing strong and having empathy isn't the way to achieve that in his opinion. He could give two ***** about Ukraine. It could very well be he is afraid of Russia or have links there. All could be true.

As for the US, I think we are falling back to older policies of world building and this is the ideal time, imo, to try. It is his second Presidency so when he is gone, he is gone, and so less investment there without a looming election. Wouldn't be surprised if some people are just burnt out from years of hysterics and are eagerly tuning out. We finally have a period where politics is not the first and last thing discussed so of all the times this could be happening, I think this is where we are most disengaged.

I'd like to know he is advising him but I don't think all this just comes out of thin air and he suddenly decides to start treating sovereign countries as his lego set. A lot of it sounds like it could be part of some defense dept wishlist, ie warhawks.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Again, not sure what your point is. Are you trying to justify Trump’s comments and potential actions? If so you’ve failed.

Well I'm not here to have my comments passed by your yard stick..So that's not a problem.

Goodbye please try and refrain from commenting in anything I post.

[arista]

It will be great if President Trump pays all of the 50,000 residents
$57,000

That would be good

[Maru]

Originally Posted by arista

It will be great if President Trump pays all of the 50,000 residents
$57,000

That would be good

He ain't paying ****. That's out of our pockets. And no, no one will get "reimbursed", the military spending alone will make quick work of that.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Maru

Possibly, but I don't think Trump is very good at keeping friends like this longterm. He likes appearing strong and having empathy isn't the way to achieve that in his opinion. He could give two ***** about Ukraine. It could very well be he is afraid of Russia or have links there. All could be true.

As for the US, I think we are falling back to older policies of world building and this is the ideal time, imo, to try. It is his second Presidency so when he is gone, he is gone, and so less investment there without a looming election. Wouldn't be surprised if some people are just burnt out from years of hysterics and are eagerly tuning out. We finally have a period where politics is not the first and last thing discussed so of all the times this could be happening, I think this is where we are most disengaged.

I'd like to know he is advising him but I don't think all this just comes out of thin air and he suddenly decides to start treating sovereign countries as his lego set. A lot of it sounds like it could be part of some defense dept wishlist, ie warhawks.

Sometimes the simple answers are the correct ones. Iceland is a big island. He can look at it on a map and say i added the big block to the USA. It may actually be that simple. Trump isn't blessed intellectually and is easily led by the person who spoke to him last

[arista]

Ex MI6 Chief
backs Trump on Greenland

Sir Richard Dearlove dismissed
The idea of Trump buying Greenland
as crazy

He is saying in the papers today
It will be good if Trump takes over Greenland
to Strengthen Europe's security.


Ref: Sky News Newspaper review

[arista]

PM Starmer
working with France/Germany

Wants to put a Force in Greenland


In Sunday Papers

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by arista

Ex MI6 Chief
backs Trump on Greenland

Sir Richard Dearlove dismissed
The idea of Trump buying Greenland
as crazy

He is saying in the papers today
It will be good if Trump takes over Greenland
to Strengthen Europe's security.


Ref: Sky News Newspaper review

A wise man.



Sorry bambi.

[arista]

Trump now says
$100,000 for all Greenlanders

[Glenn.]

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

The fact USA wasn’t even established as a country then. Silly people will believe him though.

[arista]

President Trump now has no choice
but to take over Greenland,
the Hard Way.


The Danish MP who spoke on Trevor Phillips
said it is not for sale

[Glenn.]

He does have a choice.