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Originally Posted by Parmy

You seem to be saying these young men are courageous for making the perilous journey alone first..leaving their wives and kids at home in the supposed to dangerous to live in country they are fleeing..that doesn't sound courageous to me...leaving them their to then have them travel the same journey alone to cone to you....or are they just going to leave them their languishing awaiting the inevitable in the so called war torn country they fleeed persecution from????

I didn't say courageous, but making the channel crossing is not safe. The initial journey will to be the journey the families make afterwards... ? Once refugee status has been granted, families used to be able to easily join safely and legally. This was suspended in September but will reignite later this year with stricter rules. The idea is to build a life here in the interim to allow family to follow.

Also you mention these places they get housed in, that doesn't provide the chance to integrate...that's simply not true, large groups of these young men can be found in the surrounding parks and town centres integrating with many different nationalities...they also have commmunual eating areas...so they do integrate.

Sitting in a park doesn't equal integration. They're not able to work and they're not able to be housed in a home allowing for more organic day-to-day integration.

You also say it's the conditions at fault for making them turn to crime? I wonder then, why does these conditions make them commit sexual crimes... is that simply the victims fault for saying no to these terrtibly ill treated young men? who's wives and kids they left in danger will be surprised to find in jail once they have made the jouney

Your reading comprehension needs work. I'm stating a fact - the conditions in which they live under - time and time again, regardless of immigration status or culture - corresponds with higher crime rate. I'm not blaming any victim of said crime, and it's not an excuse, it's just what the crime states show.

What I am saying is that they're not committing crimes because of their immigration status or because of where they originated from, like so many like to try and make out, but because of the situation they live in, situations created by our own policies. It's a reason for improving asylum policies, not a reason to ban them from entering the country.

In the same way British-born men who do not work, live with little support, are ostracised from society and face hardship are more likely to commit crime than someone who is in employment, in financially stable and has a support network is a reason to improve support for those people rather than continue to shun them.