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I dont think much of him......post the video of the so called salute and I'm willing to leave it at that...dancing included.
Yes sir. The salute. The armband. He knows what he's doing. He will of course deny it because 'closed fist' but he does just enough to get his point across while leaving a sliver for plausible deniability.

https://x.com/sundersays/status/1954199919050265046?

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Yes sir. The salute. The armband. He knows what he's doing. He will of course deny it because 'closed fist' but he does just enough to get his point across while leaving a sliver for plausible deniability.

https://x.com/sundersays/status/1954199919050265046?

https://x.com/NickTenconi/status/194...0%2Fframe.html



I've seen hundreds of football players and managers do the same to their fans when doing a lap off honour.


I think you're reaching a bit.
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Wtf has Elon Musk got to do with this? MASSIVE deflection.
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Wtf has Elon Musk got to do with this? MASSIVE deflection.
It's not. I am insinuating that the excuses made on this guys gestures sounds like the kind people made when Elon Musk did similar. That's all.

Do you have anything to say about your false accusations that once again I am content with antisemitism and am okay with Jews feeling unwelcome, and am fine with Muslims spreading hate? Even though nothing I have said is along those lines and I've spent my time critiquing a man throwing around nazi gestures?

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I've seen hundreds of football players and managers do the same to their fans when doing a lap off honour.

I think you're reaching a bit.
1. Sure you have.
2. Context matters.
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1. Sure you have.
2. Context matters.
Why didn't they all do one back then? If it was a Nazi salute.
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Why didn't they all do one back then? If it was a Nazi salute.
So it’s only a salute if a crowd does it back? Hm…k.

I’m not continuing this discussion. I think it was a Nazi salute, you don’t. We’re not going to agree and I’m not going to spend my time pandering to your mental gymnastics.

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He says that every day.
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And you have gold in mental gymnastics. It’s tedious.
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And you have gold in mental gymnastics. It’s tedious.
It must be boring being black and white in a discussion all the time
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I'm not the one claiming a purple armband makes you a Nazi.
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Yes sir. The salute. The armband. He knows what he's doing. He will of course deny it because 'closed fist' but he does just enough to get his point across while leaving a sliver for plausible deniability.

https://x.com/sundersays/status/1954199919050265046?

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I'm not the one claiming a purple armband makes you a Nazi.
Just to defend my opinion being misrepresented again...

I'm not claiming an armband makes him a Nazi.
  • wants to deport 1 in 7 - both illegal and legal immigrants.
  • speaks about a minority demographic inhumanely
  • wants to ban the Islamic call to prayer
  • has history of accusations of antisemitism
  • wants to deport communists
  • wants to repeal the 2013 marriage act
  • wants to allow adoption agencies to discriminate against same-sex parents
  • believes pronouns don't exist
  • describes trans people as something sinister

Am I saying he is hitler? No. Am I saying he is a Nazi? No. Do I think that when, considering all of the above, he salutes in a very similar fashion to a Nazi leader to his following, but simply with a closed fist, while donning a very similar armband and creating his party logo to look like the Iron Cross, he is innocent to the optics of what he's doing? No.

The only person looking at things in black and white is you because you refuse to consider all the other context around what he does and says.
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Can we invoke Godwin's Law for this thread now? It's supposed to be about Khan's lies that multiculturalism works - in London - but it's been hijacked and turned into an hysterical rant about what they perceived to be a nazi salute.
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Yeah I didn't think you'd comment on your ridiculous, hyperbolic claims made against me.

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I think the answer's clear. Christians and Jews are not welcome on the streets of their home country, but Muslims can spread their prayer mats in the middle of a pavement and preach hate. They can climb our monuments, they can call for the eradication of Jews and people will argue semantics. I hope if Sharia Law ever does take over, if a Muslim flag ever flies over parliament as is their plan, that the gay people who've stood up for them have a safe route out.
I am not the hysterical one.

This discussion is over for me now anyway so you can carry on between you in your echo chamber.
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The sexual attacks on our women and children are not cultural, it's claimed. Yet every migrant hotel has leaflets tellling it's residents how not to approach females.
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🚨NEW: Shahid Butt, who says he is running in Sparkhill local election to "push back
against the far-right", turns out to be a convicted Islamic terrorist

He was found guilty of plotting to bomb an Anglican church and British consulate

He has openly encouraged the city's Muslim youth to 'work out at the gym and
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Shahid Butt should not be allowed to stand. If only someone could dig up a tenuous bit of film where he looked like he may be doing a nazi salute. That would surely outweigh all the actual evidence of him being a terrorist and a danger to everyone who's not a Muslim.
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How Jewish communities have to live in London.

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The sexual attacks on our women and children are not cultural, it's claimed. Yet every migrant hotel has leaflets tellling it's residents how not to approach females.
They are cultural and they're racist. Sexual assaults and rapes involving Muslim migrants are happening all the time. We get to hear about only a fraction or, as I've said before, there would be rioting. Women's safety has been sacrificed in the name if multiculturalism and these attacks are minimised and excused by a section of our society.
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How Jewish communities have to live in London.

https://youtu.be/HpV7WEulo1g?si=JAyyWfbSs5y3mWcV
Are they protecting their community from the far Right?

No. No they're not.
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The sexual attacks on our women and children are not cultural, it's claimed. Yet every migrant hotel has leaflets tellling it's residents how not to approach females.
By that logic, every school assembly, uni consent talk, workplace training and pub toilet poster in the UK would be proof that British men have a rape culture. Which, awkwardly, is a conversation we already have.

You’re reading way too much into a laminated bit of paper and ignoring the obvious. Crime is dealt with by police and courts, not leaflets. The leaflets exist to prevent harm, not because someone’s admitting collective guilt.

At this point you’re not arguing facts, you’re just grabbing anything that fits the fear you already decided on.
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Lots of gang rapes happening to children walking home from school.
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It's not cultural they say...



Yet we have honour gang rapes.

https://www.cigionline.org/articles/honor-gang-rape/
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