[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

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…I liked Christine btw, sad to see her go and that funeral death is so brutal and terrifying…

…I was trying to think if the next ones would be the last, I presume we get them next Monday as it’s been Monday every week that they’ve been released…

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Christine is lives in the town next to where I live around a 10 minute drive away, tbh I found her really annoying

[Strictly Jake]

Oh no ben and nick as traitors together is going to be insufferable. They best not get rid of oyin!!!

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

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Christine is lives in the town next to where I live around a 10 minute drive away, tbh I found her really annoying

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…perfect Traitor murder for an annoying person, then……

[Mystic Mock]

I've caught up now.

- I'm glad that Paudie's gone, he ruined the series for me with his bad gameplay and just not being very interesting to watch.

- The lack of likability is reminding me of Series 3 of the UK series, I honestly don't understand why Reality TV Shows love to make these kind of years so much lately.

- The editing team need to spread the screentime between all of the contestants better for Series 2 imo. Because there have been far too many contestants this series that were hardly shown before they left.

- Episode 10 was probably the best episode so far, it's probably the result of having good Traitors rather than a contestant being selected for the Traitor role just because the Show wants to tick an older person box to be "inclusive” rather than if they're actually good at the role.

My rankings out of the remaining contestants:
1. Nick
2. Ben
3. Wilkin
4. Faye
5. Vanessa
6. Oyin
7. Kelley - What a pathetic individual she is.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I know what you mean...Claudia is formidable and as much as I like Siobahn she just doesn't set the same tone. Also we get invested in characters and the UK one was soooo popular.

You have to bear with it...getting familiar with the characters now and making a difference.

I do agree to some extent.

I do miss having a contestant at the same level as Wilf, everyone in Series 2 bar Mollie and the other blonde woman that got to the finale, Charlotte last year, and Stephen, Rachel, James, Jade and Roxy.

The Irish edition has potential imo, but the casting just needs to be more standout imo.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…Oyin really is sensational at this, I think that she’s suspected and mentioned all of the Traitors now, she’s definitely on to Paudie…I think that I’d probably like to see a Faithful win for this edition just because the only female Traitor chosen and recruited so far has been Katelyn who was originally chosen by Siobhan…the Traitors themselves have been very ‘boys club’ in their choosing so it would be lovely to see a winner like Oyin, throwing them out of their man turret…

…it’s a good group/a good edition, I’m enjoying it…..

Tbf we've had a Sisterhood year, so why not a "boys club” year?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Oh I saw your post in the other thread Ammi so you watched Ep 10?

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What did you think about that? I thought Joanna was very full of her own importance, she acted like she was the only honest person there and imo (even though I'm not a Faye fan) she would have been happy if everyone had turned on Faye instead of her and was really annoyed that Vanessa, Oyin & Kelly went for her over Faye, I mean none of them were traitors anyway so there was no right and wrong/good vs evil there

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Didn't you think that Kelley, Oyin, and Vanessa were horrible for mocking Joanna for giving Kelley the shield though?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Although

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The bit where Kelley voted her out and said "Thanks for the shield" sounded a bit mean but I think Kelley was just awkward and it came out wrong

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I disagree, I think that Kelley was being mean to try and join the inner circle.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

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Also, him tactically wanting to save Katelyn was for his benefit anyway so I'm not sure why he thinks everyone should save her because he thinks he can manipulate her (also bordering on misogynistic there Nick.) When do you get the last 2 episodes?

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He meant to manipulate her in the game.

[Shaun]

I've watched two episodes of this and the sound-mixing is so bad compared to the UK/US one... the round table is so claustrophobic and weird

Paudie gives me the creeps. Can't pinpoint why. Also really not liking Nick or Nina.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Oh I saw your post in the other thread Ammi so you watched Ep 10?

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What did you think about that? I thought Joanna was very full of her own importance, she acted like she was the only honest person there and imo (even though I'm not a Faye fan) she would have been happy if everyone had turned on Faye instead of her and was really annoyed that Vanessa, Oyin & Kelly went for her over Faye, I mean none of them were traitors anyway so there was no right and wrong/good vs evil there

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I cringed at Joanna's terrible game plan,she's whispering from group to group...did she not think it would get back to her ?? . It was a daft strategy to try and play Faye,Oyin & Vanessa against eachother, she was delusional in thinking it was
" survival" . When in fact it was shooting herself in the foot more like.

It's very odd that she kept saying she has nobody in the game and no ' alliances ', when it looked very much like Kelly initially trusted her , until she screwed that up . I mean I get the whole " everybody for themselves", especially in a game like this . But she executed it so badly,which made her look 2 faced.

Plus if she gave Kelly the shield...there must have been some loyalty there. Joanne messed up her own chances,and then makes the girls feel guilty by crying and calling them " mean girls" . Really over the top reaction. It's funny she would rather the boys win ,when 2 of them are Traitors .

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Although

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The bit where Kelley voted her out and said "Thanks for the shield" sounded a bit mean but I think Kelley was just awkward and it came out wrong

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I honestly think Kelly just lost trust in her ,and Joanna didn't help herself.so Kelly probably thought the Shield was a bribe tactic to keep her on side lol .

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Ammi

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…yeah, even before he was a Traitor he was often trying to manipulate and dominate some of the women and actually seemed to get a bit narky if they weren’t compliant to his game play…the men might have dominated in the turret this season with only one female traitor chosen at the beginning but the ladies have pretty much dominated the smart thinking in working stuff out…

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Isn't it strange how Nick even pointed out how smart the ladies are especially Oyin ,yet never recruited her . Him & Ben are annoying and arrogant as Traitors,I'm just glad we didn't have them as Traitors from the beginning,as that would have been worse. Paudie did well ,it was refreshing to see an older person get far . I felt a bit bad about his banishment especially so close to the final.Nick & Ben think they have this in the bag , can't wait to see their grins wiped off

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Ammi

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…that made no sense at all to me and should have been a huge red flag to the others to banish him as obviously some Traitors he would go for and some he wouldn’t…that really showed an unreliable gameplay and someone who couldn’t be trusted in any alliance…I really so want a female to win this …(…specifically Oyin because she’s been terrific…)…because the females have really shone…(…some of them…)…and yet they’ve only ever been considered for murdering…not for recruiting….pffftttt, down with that sort of thing…

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It makes me think if one of the girls or even Paudie had that crazy idea of saving Katelyn, they would have instantly been banished, especially the manipulative actions . It's actually frustrating when someone like Nick & Ben show major suspect behavior from the start ,but get away with it due to having so much trust and influence on the group as a whole.

Like some bizarre halo effect. Even before Christine got murdered by Nick ,she said he was like a brother or something,as he was murdering her in plain sight with his nefarious little side hug .

I'm championing for an all girl win as well

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf we've had a Sisterhood year, so why not a "boys club” year?

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…oh I hadn’t really thought of it in terms of other seasons in that it’s the first season of Ireland Traitors and is its own thing, you know…season 2 of the UK one was also very male dominated though as I recall Claudia commenting on it herself…it’s not so much that it’s boy club on its own, it’s more layered than that…it’s been noted by the different Traitors that females have been murdered because of how astute and on it they are and therefore a threat etc…and this Ireland edition has unveiled many Traitors very quickly so had a few recruitments…and yet some very astute and on it females aren't being considered for those recruitments/only considered to be murdered…it would feel logical to me to have recruited a faithful like Oyin as her smart perception would have been such an asset…so it’s not about ‘sisterhood’, it’s more about not seeing the Traitors consider the sisters, if you like …anyway, that’s as it is, that there has only been one female Traitor chosen as an original and if it were being chosen in a ‘boy club’ way on friendships and relationships etc…then so far with the many Traitors and detections we’ve had, that doesn’t seem like a good strategy…

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Shaun

I've watched two episodes of this and the sound-mixing is so bad compared to the UK/US one... the round table is so claustrophobic and weird

Paudie gives me the creeps. Can't pinpoint why. Also really not liking Nick or Nina.

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…I think by the end, as bumbling as he was…Paudie ended up being funny viewing for me because it was kind of baffling how he got so far and ‘outplayed’ so many other Traitors that were trying to oust him…..

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Ammi

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…oh I hadn’t really thought of it in terms of other seasons in that it’s the first season of Ireland Traitors and is its own thing, you know…season 2 of the UK one was also very male dominated though as I recall Claudia commenting on it herself…it’s not so much that it’s boy club on its own, it’s more layered than that…it’s been noted by the different Traitors that females have been murdered because of how astute and on it they are and therefore a threat etc…and this Ireland edition has unveiled many Traitors very quickly so had a few recruitments…and yet some very astute and on it females aren't being considered for those recruitments/only considered to be murdered…it would feel logical to me to have recruited a faithful like Oyin as her smart perception would have been such an asset…so it’s not about ‘sisterhood’, it’s more about not seeing the Traitors consider the sisters, if you like …anyway, that’s as it is, that there has only been one female Traitor chosen as an original and if it were being chosen in a ‘boy club’ way on friendships and relationships etc…then so far with the many Traitors and detections we’ve had, that doesn’t seem like a good strategy…

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I do agree with you to a point, as I personally don't like gameplay based on gender, race, or sexuality tbh, I see it as weak gameplay. I'm only rooting for Nick and David because the Faithfuls are just so unlikable or Wilkin.

It's just I do find it a tad hypocritical that nobody on TIBB had an issue with Minah and Linda starting up a Sisterhood, but both Harry and Nick in their respective years have been pulled up for starting a "boys club” that's just my view on it.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

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Isn't it strange how Nick even pointed out how smart the ladies are especially Oyin ,yet never recruited her . Him & Ben are annoying and arrogant as Traitors,I'm just glad we didn't have them as Traitors from the beginning,as that would have been worse. Paudie did well ,it was refreshing to see an older person get far . I felt a bit bad about his banishment especially so close to the final.Nick & Ben think they have this in the bag , can't wait to see their grins wiped off

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…yeah, there are some very smart/astute thinkers in there who just happen to be females because they haven’t seemed to be selected as Traitors…arrogance isn’t something we like to see overly in Traitors, is it…I mean, yes I’m looking for a female win but that’s because I’d like to see a faithful win as I think the faithful team has held the smarter game players throughout and they now largely happen to be female because they weren’t chosen, except to be murdered……

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

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I do agree with you to a point, as I personally don't like gameplay based on gender, race, or sexuality tbh, I see it as weak gameplay. I'm only rooting for Nick and David because the Faithfuls are just so unlikable or Wilkin.

It's just I do find it a tad hypocritical that nobody on TIBB had an issue with Minah and Linda starting up a Sisterhood, but both Harry and Nick in their respective years have been pulled up for starting a "boys club” that's just my view on it.

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…I don’t really know what to say because the ‘boys club’ to me isn’t making sense as the Traitors are being detected so quickly …it’s not about isolating it as one thing, it’s not making sense to me to dismiss or not consider etc those females who could add so much to the Traitor group…it feels a bit as though some people have become ‘invisible’ as possible choices and yet they have been completely visible and in radar for murdering…I just don’t see it as you in terms of ‘sisterhood’ standing so am not in the same mind/thinking space…I see it more as the smarter and astute/perceptive players which happen to be female…as in Oyin, specifically…I find her both very likeable and very astute and perceptive…so I’m rooting for her..

[Ammi]

…anyways…looking forward to the final episodes to see how it all plays out…I think that on the whole, this has been a very enjoyable season and first edition for Ireland…it was such a great UK season 4 for me and very exciting right through to the end with whether the Traitors would succeed etc and with that one, I was so rooting for them…that I think airing the first Ireland one immediately on the back of in the UK, with a new host was always going to be a difficult slot to fill…but I think that it’s done it very nicely and I would definitely look forward to the next Ireland season…

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Shaun

I've watched two episodes of this and the sound-mixing is so bad compared to the UK/US one... the round table is so claustrophobic and weird

Paudie gives me the creeps. Can't pinpoint why. Also really not liking Nick or Nina.

We dont have a budget like the UK or US would have. I didnt like Paudie at the start but his journey is pretty funny by the end

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

We dont have a budget like the UK or US would have. I didnt loke Paudie at the start but gis journey is pretty funny by the end

…yeah, that’s how I felt about Paudie…he was like a bumbling comedy character that I couldn’t help but smile at and also because he didn’t take himself too seriously either…