[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Watching telly , playing computer games , then working out in the gym ( free membership ) ..

I have seen reports of paedophiles being able to get hold of private files documenting sex abuse cases as way of passing the time all whilst in prison .. they even share the info with fellow perverts

Lets not forget that drugs and whatever are rife in the prison system

[Glenn.]

High-profile prisoners like Huntley spend most of their time in segregation or protection wings. They’re not casually wandering around sharing files and socialising.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

High-profile prisoners like Huntley spend most of their time in segregation or protection wings. They’re not casually wandering around sharing files and socialising.

We obviously watch completely different programs …

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

We obviously watch completely different programs …

I think that’s a given.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Zizu

It would be ‘one of those things you’d have to accept .. it would be an absolute rarity though

In contrast there are THOUSANDS of innocent people being killed each and every day in wars across the world ..


Are we petitioning the politicians or armed services to stop killing innocents ?


Apparently it’s acceptable to kill innocent people

Going by your logic, yes. But what if that innocent person in prison was your wife, brother or one of your children?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

I think that’s a given.

Well I basically watch documentaries and sports soooooo

[Glenn.]

Documentaries tell a story, they’re not the same as actual evidence or records. They pick the bits that make good TV.

So using that as proof of how prison works isn’t exactly solid.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Redway

Going by your logic, yes. But what if that innocent person in prison was your wife, brother or one of your children?

Whatever I say will see me being slaughtered by someone or other in here …

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Whatever I say will see me being slaughtered by someone or other in here …

Get a grip, Zizu. It’s a civil disagreement and nothing more, unless you make it something more. Just because me and you have history doesn’t mean you’re above being disagreed with. It’s a forum. It exists for that very reason, to exchange views. This isn’t the thread for bullying or coming in with no other reason than to hound you and I was upset with Ammi the other day for insinuating that was the case, and I still am upset with her, because I consider her an actual friend. So let’s not bring that here. I’m 100% on-topic and that’s all I’m interested in in this very sensitive thread. So let’s let go of the persecution-complex.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Livia

I sentence you to six box sets and a case of Merlot...

you could bring a whip too if you like

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Redway

Get a grip, Zizu. It’s a civil disagreement and nothing more, unless you make it something more. Just because me and you have history doesn’t mean you’re above being disagreed with. It’s a forum. It exists for that very reason, to exchange views.

I get more than enough grief in here so I now pick my battles ..

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I get more than enough grief in here so I now pick my battles ..

But this isn’t a battle. It’s a difference in opinion. The only thing taking this off-topic between us are insinuations that it’s anything but what it is. You are not above disagreement. You’re an FM, like the rest of us. I don’t know what makes you think you deserve special treatment.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Redway

But this isn’t a battle. It’s a difference in opinion. The only thing taking this off-topic between us are insinuations that it’s anything but what it is. You are not above disagreement. You’re an FM, like the rest of us. I don’t know what makes you think you deserve special treatment.

I have no idea what you’re going on about

I don’t mind people disagreeing with me .. that’s just you projecting your thoughts/ views against me .

I simply don’t care for all the hurtful comments/insults that come my way way and that’s when I close ranks

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I have no idea what you’re going on about

I don’t mind people disagreeing with me .. that’s just you projecting your thoughts/ views against me .

I simply don’t care for all the hurtful comments/insults that come my way way and that’s when I close ranks

But you’re projecting what simply isn’t there in this thread based on past dynamics. No-one’s insulted you here. We just don’t think that the parents of the victims are as ebullient as you seem to think they are over Huntley’s death. You don’t get to close ranks and make out that you’re being insulted and abused just-because people are reality-checking your opinions. That’s not insulting, bullying, abuse or persecution. It’s simple disagreement. So please don’t bring issues from other threads into this, because that’s genuinely disrespectful considering what’s being discussed. You just have to accept that I can have more explicit beef with you elsewhere but still have space to disagree you calmly elsewhere. You don’t have to make it into something it isn’t just-because it’s me. I’m not the only person who’s disagreed with you throughout this thread and neither is Glenn. But because it’s me, I get the tag of cruel self-indulgence even when nothing of the kind’s gone on here.

Pointing that out isn’t projection. It’s just me noticing the pattern of behaviour you’ve displayed on this thread. I’d already put that beef aside for the sake of this thread. You can’t keep claiming people are attacking you when they’re just disagreeing. This discussion isn’t about our interpersonal beef/drama and I wouldn’t go into this sort of thread trying to cheapen it as-if it was. I drew that boundary here from day one. You really don’t need to be so defensive in return, getting yourself all wound-up just because someone has an opinion you don’t like or simply challenges your opinions. Disagreement ≠ abuse. At-all. You need to learn that distinction. And it’s only for your own good at the end of the day, because otherwise it makes you look like you’re crying wolf every time even when there are a few times when I choose to go a step further with you. On this particular thread, all it happens to be is you needing a bit of a reality-check administered. Nothing, and I mean nothing, more. It might not have been obvious to everyone yesterday based on your history and I suppose I can understand that but I’ve been explicit about that intention now, so it’s there for all to see. And none of my posts have been deleted, because I haven’t said anything out of bounds or against the rules. We’re just hashing a calm disagreement. Honestly. Doesn’t mean I won’t take it up a more personal notch with you in other threads but we ain’t doing that here. We just not. Not with a thread as sensitive as this. If you’d rather bypass that as well just to bring a feud into it, that’s not something I want to get involved with. All I’m doing is sticking to the topic, about as matter-as-fact and non-personalised as it gets between you and me. And that’s a neutral standing, not an attack. We can have beef elsewhere but I’m not dragging it into a sensitive thread.

Believe it or not, it doesn’t come to any bone in my body to willingly be that inappropriately petty on a thread like this. And I’d want to believe that the people who mean the most to me on this forum would be able to see that.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Redway

But you’re projecting what simply isn’t there in this thread based on past dynamics. No-one’s insulted you here. We just don’t think that the parents of the victims are as ebullient as you seem to think they are over Huntley’s death. You don’t get to close ranks and make out that you’re being insulted and abused just-because people are reality-checking your opinions. That’s not insulting, bullying, abuse or persecution. It’s simple disagreement. So please don’t bring issues from other threads into this, because that’s genuinely disrespectful considering what’s being discussed. You just have to accept that I can have more explicit beef with you elsewhere but still have space to disagree you calmly elsewhere. You don’t have to make it into something it isn’t just-because it’s me. I’m not the only person who’s disagreed with you throughout this thread and neither is Glenn. But because it’s me, I get the tag of cruel self-indulgence even when nothing of the kind’s gone on here.

Pointing that out isn’t projection. It’s just me noticing the pattern of behaviour you’ve displayed on this thread. I’d already put that beef aside for the sake of this thread. You can’t keep claiming people are attacking you when they’re just disagreeing. This discussion isn’t about our interpersonal beef/drama and I wouldn’t go into this sort of thread trying to cheapen it as-if it was. I drew that boundary here from day one. You really don’t need to be so defensive in return, getting yourself all wound-up just because someone has an opinion you don’t like or simply challenges your opinions.

Ok then .. how would you feel if you were the parent of one of the two girls ?

Want him dead or happy for him to live his life getting free meals , the best medical care , loads of access to free leisure activities etc etc etc

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Ok then .. how would you feel if you were the parent of one of the two girls ?

Want him dead or happy for him to live his life getting free meals , the best medical care , loads of access to free leisure activities etc etc etc

Yeah, I don’t think Huntley was having the time of his life in prison. And even if he was, there were enough regular beatings to bounce him back into shape and remind him that he was a wanted man. Either way, I just think your notion of the parents doing cartwheels was a bit overstretched, that’s all. That’s really it. I didn’t come into this particular thread to insult you, whether you let yourself see that or not.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by bots

you could bring a whip too if you like

LOL...

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Redway

Yeah, I don’t think Huntley was having the time of his life in prison. And even if he was, there were enough regular beatings to bounce him back into shape and remind him that he was a wanted man. Either way, I just think your notion of the parents doing cartwheels was a bit overstretched, that’s all. That’s really it. I didn’t come into this particular thread to insult you, whether you let yourself see that or not.

No that’s fair ..