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Sadly, a USA Refuelling Plane has crashed in Iraq

Sadly, it was full of Fuel Big plane



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6 Crew Members Died

Making USA Total
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This is the Plane that crashed
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This White House video is honestly grim. They’ve taken real footage of U.S. strikes — real explosions, real people dying — and cut it together like a joke reel, complete with gaming‑style edits and meme pacing. It treats war like entertainment, as if civilian lives and soldiers’ deaths are just visual effects to punch up with pop‑culture clips.

There’s something deeply wrong about presenting lethal force with the same tone people use for TikTok edits. It flattens everything — fear, loss, consequences — into a flashy montage designed to get likes. Whatever the intention was, the result is flippant, unserious, and disturbingly detached from the reality of ordinary people caught in the middle.

If this is what official messaging looks like now, we’ve crossed a line. War shouldn’t be marketed like a video game trailer.
…I wonder what level Trump the war gamer thinks the bombing of the Shajareh Tayyebeh Elementary School should be played at…
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Is anyone really surprised that the trump administration would do that?
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The British Base in Iraq
was Bombed yesterday
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Schools get bombed during wars. In WW2 a school full of kids waiting to be evacuated in Canning Town was bombed by the Germans, everyone died. A Copenhagen school was bombed by the RAF after being mistaken for Gestapo HQ. 120 people were killed including 90 kids. That's just 2 out of many. These are terrible things that happen in war. It is not unique to Donald Trump.
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…in this war and with these bombings it’s very unique and specific to Donald Trump to release videos that are representative of life losses for him …and are portrayed as a video platform game ….which is very much the point being made and very unique to the man he is and the values placed on life for him…
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We should also acknowledge that the accuracy of todays bombs is not in the same league as those produced 10 years ago, let alone the 2nd world war
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Live all TV news

The USA General Dan Caine
Joint Chiefs Chairman

Confirms 6 Deaths from the Fuel Plane
which was an accident

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Now taking Live Press questions.


With Pete Hegseth,
Secretary of Defence,
and the General.

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One Press Man
asked about the Iran Girls' School Deaths.

Hegseth stated it is still under investigation.


This is Day 14

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They have now ended the press conference
Many of the press never got to ask a question.


Iran still blocks the Strait of Hormuz.

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Reports

Iran has put mines at the bottom of
Strait of Hormuz.


So as a Tanker Ship goes ever it,
The Mine then explodes.

USA has No solution

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It's in Trump's and Putin's interests to keep the strait closed. America and Russia both gain hugely from the oil price increase and both leaders don't give a flying **** about their people
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Do you think they deliberately targeted a school?
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Some Reports,
it is next to an Army Base



So Not deliberately

In my view
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Despite the USA Claims

The Iran Chief of Security walks about


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[Iran's security chief Ali Larijani
has taunted Donald Trump in a live interview
in Tehran as Israeli airstrikes rain down
on the Iranian capital.

Larijani has joined thousands of
demonstrators at a Quds Day rally
in the city despite fresh Israeli attacks
launched earlier today.

While being interviewed, Larijani says
Israeli attacks during the demonstrations
show Israel’s weakness and confusion.]


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no, but they are gung-ho. They could have been more careful and checked the AI results. I always remember hearing americans on the TV in my youth and their arrogant words and actions and the Trump administration is more reflective of that than i have seen in a couple of decades
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no, but they are gung-ho. They could have been more careful and checked the AI results. I always remember hearing americans on the TV in my youth and their arrogant words and actions and the Trump administration is more reflective of that than i have seen in a couple of decades
Yeah, it was ever thus.

Thing is, when Muslim extremists target schools and nurseries, they call it strategy. And they're almost always funded, equipped or trained - sometimes all three - by Iran. When one of their own schools is hit, they call it a war crime. Don't get me wrong, in no way do I support targeting schools, ever. But it's something both sides are guilty of, but only one side does it on purpose.
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Schools get bombed during wars. In WW2 a school full of kids waiting to be evacuated in Canning Town was bombed by the Germans, everyone died. A Copenhagen school was bombed by the RAF after being mistaken for Gestapo HQ. 120 people were killed including 90 kids. That's just 2 out of many. These are terrible things that happen in war. It is not unique to Donald Trump.
Exactly — what was the point of going to war in the first place? None of the explanations we’ve been fed make any real sense. If the goal was to - change Iran’s leadership - then we’re talking about a scenario that would come with massive casualties on all sides, and anyone pretending otherwise is lying to themselves. There’s no clean, surgical way to topple a government of that size and influence.

What it does look like is the U.S. getting dragged into something it didn’t fully control. Whether that was pressure from Netanyahu or just Washington overestimating its own leverage, the end result is the same: they’ve walked straight into a conflict that’s already expanding faster than they can contain it. And now we’re seeing outside players — including Putin — stepping in to support Iran, which only widens the whole mess.

The U.S. keeps insisting the situation is “nearly over,” but that’s pure fantasy. In barely a week the conflict has already grown beyond anything they can manage, and the people making these statements know it. They’re just hoping the public doesn’t notice how badly they’ve miscalculated.
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