[watchinittoomuch]

Originally posted by Cybele

Yes, I do have a way with words. That comes from being educated. Though I do empathize with your child having AS, I can assure you that Freddie does not have it.

Here are the symptoms. I will bold the ones that Freddie MIGHT have:

• Lack of managing appropriate social conduct

• High intelligence

• Anger management problems

• Controlling feelings such as depression, fear or anxiety

• Lack of empathy

• Inability to listen to others

• Inflexible thinking

• Repetitive routines provides feelings of security

• Stress when their routine suddenly changes

• Inability to think in abstract ways

• Specialised fields of interest

• Visual thinking

So... Freddie is smart so therefore he has Aspergers? Sorry. Doesn't compute. He is probably one of the MOST empathetic people I have seen on TV. He is very flexible in his thinking. He doesn't have rituals or repetitive routines. He is able to think in very abstract ways. In fact, his ability to do so sometimes goes right over the heads of the others because they aren't very smart. He is not a visual thinker. He doesn't obsess over a specific subject. He is extremely peaceful so there are no anger management problems.

So, sorry, but you are wrong.

Chilly up there on your high horse is it?

Freddie dispalys more than one aspect of AS, and as anyone with any experience of the condition knows, you DO NOT have to display every symptom to have it...he also does alot of visual thinking, displays innapropriate reactions in social situations, and talks talks at times without necessarily it beong a two way conversation and often loses the other person involved in the 'conversation'.

He is eccentric, and if he has obsessions or not we wouldnt really know, alot of the symptoms are learned and dealt with with age.

Now Im not saying he DOES have AS, what Im saying is it wouldnt be a surprise to me if it turned out he was diagnosed at some point. So sorry, you are wrong....you dont have to tick every box to have it you know, and there are many different levels.

[Cybele]

Originally posted by watchinittoomuch

Chilly up there on your high horse is it?

Freddie dispalys more than one aspect of AS, and as anyone with any experience of the condition knows, you DO NOT have to display every symptom to have it...he also does alot of visual thinking, displays innapropriate reactions in social situations, and talks talks at times without necessarily it beong a two way conversation and often loses the other person involved in the 'conversation'.

He is eccentric, and if he has obsessions or not we wouldnt really know, alot of the symptoms are learned and dealt with with age.

Now Im not saying he DOES have AS, what Im saying is it wouldnt be a surprise to me if it turned out he was diagnosed at some point. So sorry, you are wrong....you dont have to tick every box to have it you know, and there are many different levels.

I understand what you are saying, but the things you point out are also experienced by a great many people who have absolutely nothing wrong with them. There are certain key symptoms with AP that set them apart and Freddie doesn't display those things. All he does is be socially awkward which can be part of dyslexia which he HAS been diagnosed with. I am sure that if he had AS, it would have been diagnosed at that time. Freddie has a specific type of dyslexia which affects the formation of speech. That alone would explain away the behaviors which you are attributing to AS. Know what I mean?

[Cybele]

Originally posted by watchinittoomuch

Chilly up there on your high horse is it?

Freddie dispalys more than one aspect of AS, and as anyone with any experience of the condition knows, you DO NOT have to display every symptom to have it...he also does alot of visual thinking, displays innapropriate reactions in social situations, and talks talks at times without necessarily it beong a two way conversation and often loses the other person involved in the 'conversation'.

He is eccentric, and if he has obsessions or not we wouldnt really know, alot of the symptoms are learned and dealt with with age.

Now Im not saying he DOES have AS, what Im saying is it wouldnt be a surprise to me if it turned out he was diagnosed at some point. So sorry, you are wrong....you dont have to tick every box to have it you know, and there are many different levels.

And I would also like to point out that there is no reason for you to be nasty with me. I have never been nasty with you. You have been shirty with me twice now. Really not necessary.

[watchinittoomuch]

Originally posted by Cybele

I understand what you are saying, but the things you point out are also experienced by a great many people who have absolutely nothing wrong with them. There are certain key symptoms with AP that set them apart and Freddie doesn't display those things. All he does is be socially awkward which can be part of dyslexia which he HAS been diagnosed with. I am sure that if he had AS, it would have been diagnosed at that time. Freddie has a specific type of dyslexia which affects the formation of speech. That alone would explain away the behaviors which you are attributing to AS. Know what I mean?

Yeah I do...which if you read my initial post in this thread you'd see I said pretty much the same thing....but then you said people are talking out their arses and it put my back up LOL, I live with it so know my arse doesnt come in to it

[Cybele]

Originally posted by watchinittoomuch

Yeah I do...which if you read my initial post in this thread you'd see I said pretty much the same thing....but then you said people are talking out their arses and it put my back up LOL, I live with it so know my arse doesnt come in to it

My "talking out of the ar$e" statement was directed at the 80 different threads talking about how this person has AS, that person is a sociopath, this person has autism etc. Few of those people have any idea of what those conditions entail. I have experience with some of them and try to explain. Not that they listen, of course. It was also by the frustration that often times these threads are started as a way to influence people to dislike them. "Oooh... Freddie's autistic. Let's get him out." or "Marcus is a psycopath. He's got to go before he kills someone." etc. It makes me wonder at some of the developmental or psycosocial issues of some of the forum members sometimes!

[watchinittoomuch]

Originally posted by Cybele

My "talking out of the ar$e" statement was directed at the 80 different threads talking about how this person has AS, that person is a sociopath, this person has autism etc. Few of those people have any idea of what those conditions entail. I have experience with some of them and try to explain. Not that they listen, of course. It was also by the frustration that often times these threads are started as a way to influence people to dislike them. "Oooh... Freddie's autistic. Let's get him out." or "Marcus is a psycopath. He's got to go before he kills someone." etc. It makes me wonder at some of the developmental or psycosocial issues of some of the forum members sometimes!

Well yeah I agree with you there, the conditions of any of the housemates shouldnt be a factor when it comes to swaying their popularity.

There's a brilliant thread on gaga actually about Freddie and Dyslexia, if you're not a member I'll post the OP in here, its very interesting, a hugely detailed post on the full extent the affects Dyslexia can have...I didnt realise it was such a complicated condition...its alot more than getting your words in a pickle..