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James · 21-10-2009, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ProbeEight

Here is another good one :

You know that feeling when you drift into sleep and fall off a cliff only to jerk awake? That's a natural instinct from our days as pre humans who lived in trees. This instinct was developed and needed to prevent our ancestors from falling off trees in there sleep and dying. And it's still with us.

Sounds a bit like sleep paralysis when you are dozing but still awake but can't move, until you force yourself awake. The body stops itself acting out your dreams but sometimes you can't move before you are actually asleep. I have had that.

Some people think that can explain alien abduction type experiences.

InOne · 21-10-2009, 08:48 PM

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James · 21-10-2009, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat!

LEt me give you a quote from Descates, I have studied his relativity theory, and its pretty convincing. YOu have to read it very carefully, I remember, it took me a while to even undertand what he was talking about:

"But I have convinced myself that there is absolutely nothing in the world, no sky, no earth, no minds, no bodies. Does it now follow that I too do not exist? No. If I convinced myself of something [or thought anything at all] then I certainly existed. But there is a deceiver of supreme power and cunning who is deliberately and constantly deceiving me. In that case I too undoubtedly exist, if he is deceiving me; and let him deceive me as much as he can, he will never bring it about that I am nothing so long as I think that I am something. So, after considering everything very thoroughly, I must finally conclude that the proposition, I am, I exist, is necessarily true whenever it is put forward by me or conceived in my mind. "

If I've understood it right... that only proves to me that I exist. It doesn't prove to me that you and everything else exists.

InOne · 21-10-2009, 08:55 PM

Really you can't prove you exist unless you go by someone elses opinion of what existance actually is...

Wildcat! · 21-10-2009, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by James

If I've understood it right... that only proves to me that I exist. It doesn't prove to me that you and everything else exists.

Thats actually a good point.....

Let me think about it.
Actually, yeah, that is all it proves. I dont think Descartes ever claimed otherwise, so youre right.

Stu · 21-10-2009, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by James

Sounds a bit like sleep paralysis when you are dozing but still awake but can't move, until you force yourself awake. The body stops itself acting out your dreams but sometimes you can't move before you are actually asleep. I have had that.

Some people think that can explain alien abduction type experiences.

Yep, that's the term. That's what those strange body vibrations are.

Vicky. · 22-10-2009, 02:41 AM

Bump...this was very interesting, and I had to go out drinking...now I wish I hadnt, because some strange woman is in my house, asleep

InOne · 22-10-2009, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by VickyJ

Bump...this was very interesting, and I had to go out drinking...now I wish I hadnt, because some strange woman is in my house, asleep

I have been drinking all day lol get the woman told!!!!

Niamh. · 22-10-2009, 03:16 PM

Bump - More ideas please!!

InOne · 22-10-2009, 03:18 PM

People have had heart sugery have technically been dead. That is pretty trippy, how do you know you ever really woke up?

SurferJay · 22-10-2009, 03:19 PM

yeah no i dont exist im just a bit of your imagination tbh

Niamh. · 22-10-2009, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne

People have had heart sugery have technically been dead. That is pretty trippy, how do you know you ever really woke up?

Yeah, I think it's all to do with your brain though. That seeing a light and all that is because you start to get tunnel vision when your brain is shutting down (so I've heard anyway)

InOne · 22-10-2009, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Yeah, I think it's all to do with your brain though. That seeing a light and all that is because you start to get tunnel vision when your brain is shutting down (so I've heard anyway)

Yeah it's crazy lol as I said before, all people know is other Humans opinions on what it means to exist.

Niamh. · 22-10-2009, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne

Yeah it's crazy lol as I said before, all people know is other Humans opinions on what it means to exist.

You could drive yourself mad trying to figure it out

InOne · 22-10-2009, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo

You could drive yourself mad trying to figure it out

I'm already crazy anyway

lol

SurferJay · 22-10-2009, 03:25 PM

because we have the ability to think then we have to exist even if we are a figment of someone else's imagination

Niamh. · 22-10-2009, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne

I'm already crazy anyway

lol

haha, no you're not Joe

Niamh. · 22-10-2009, 03:28 PM

What is the purpose of dreams, do you think?

InOne · 22-10-2009, 03:30 PM

They are sooo real sometimes, it's weird.

Niamh. · 22-10-2009, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne

They are sooo real sometimes, it's weird.

I know, Is just that your brain can't switch off and it has to be doing something? but then again according to studies we only have around 6 dreams a night

Benjamin · 07-01-2012, 01:57 AM

This needed to be bumped and answered by the newer members of the forum.

Mystic Mock · 07-01-2012, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

I know, Is just that your brain can't switch off and it has to be doing something? but then again according to studies we only have around 6 dreams a night

I have a theory that dreams are a temporary way to visit Alternate Realities.

To the OP I dont have a clue lol.

Brother Leon · 07-01-2012, 02:08 AM

Difficult question......

Nude photos with date & time are the only way to really prove it I think.............................I am waiting

Ladies that is before I may be sent some naughty penis images

Doogle · 07-01-2012, 02:10 AM

I couldn't sleep and saw this, no sleep for me.

But I wonder, everyone here doubted they existed but we can't all not exist surely? I mean if none of us exist yet we all speak to each other, unless I exist and you're all just made up and don't exist. Oh god. Not even sure that made sense.

Also I LOL'd at Stu's sarcastic line to Claudia which she didn't get.