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Old 06-11-2009, 04:07 PM #76
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Lol ok, for one most muslims in this country dont oppose democracy. There is no need to feel threatened, its mass hysteria with no foundation...time and time again this happens throughout history and still we dont learn
do you live in London or Birmingham?
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It clearly shows that many parts of London are ghettos with no identity, just camps of immigrants. Its not diversity it is a terrible immigration policy that has been left to rot.

No identity? you mean they're not like you? lol
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No identity? you mean they're not like you? lol
no English identity
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do you live in London or Birmingham?
No Leicester, one of the most diverse cities in the country. I grew up in Highfields amongst a wide range of ethnic groups...Ive been hearing the **** you spout all my life and it was bull then and its bull now
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Lol ok, for one most muslims in this country dont oppose democracy. There is no need to feel threatened, its mass hysteria with no foundation...time and time again this happens throughout history and still we dont learn
How can you say that! The very nature of the Muslim religion is not democratic - it is extremely dictorial - especially towards women!
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Im sure they were saying the same **** back when the Romans invaded...give it up, what exactly are you holding on to?
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Im sure they were saying the same **** back when the Romans invaded...give it up, what exactly are you holding on to?
At least the Romans built some roads. What is it that Wembley High street, for example is adding to England?
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How can you say that! The very nature of the Muslim religion is not democratic - it is extremely dictorial - especially towards women!
No there has been an Islamic political movement that has grown I grant you that (and we have contributed to that btw) . This is a secular society not a religious one and if you knew any muslims you might find that most prefer it this way. This isnt a Christian society and fundamentalist Christians also have their problems too, its an interpretation thing.
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Whatever you say - this is a Christian country with its own heritage and culture - and that is how it should stay. We have as much right to preserve our culture as any other religion - and that is why so many feel so strongly about it.

Multiculture is fine - but Christianity should always be the dominant religion in this country along with the English culture and way of life.
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No Leicester, one of the most diverse cities in the country. I grew up in Highfields amongst a wide range of ethnic groups...Ive been hearing the **** you spout all my life and it was bull then and its bull now
is your opinion. and btw, at no time did i call your views ****, perhaps you could return the compliment?
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This is more like the true face of immigration

http://www.naar.org.uk/resources/PDF...ct%20sheet.pdf

http://www.poptel.org.uk/scgn/archiv.../0709/p5b.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4137990.stm
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Whatever you say - this is a Christian country with its own heritage and culture - and that is how it should stay. We have as much right to preserve our culture as any other religion - and that is why so many feel so strongly about it.

Multiculture is fine - but Christianity should always be the dominant religion in this country along with the English culture and way of life.
No this isnt a Christian country, this is a secular democratic country that accepts all cultures and religions. Our culture over time has been assimilated with other cultures, our heritage lives on within that, but cultures change and develop constantly as they have done throughout the centuries. I feel confident enough in my own identity as not to feel threatened by other cultures and difference
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No this isnt a Christian country, this is a secular democratic country that accepts all cultures and religions. Our culture over time has been assimilated with other cultures, our heritage lives on within that, but cultures change and develop constantly as they have done throughout the centuries. I feel confident enough in my own identity as not to feel threatened by other cultures and difference
I don't see the Muslim religion doing much assimilating. They feel the most threatened of all - hence their usually violent reaction to any criticism. How has the Muslim religion developed and changed throughout the centuries?

The fact that you say that demonstrates my point - that some people are trying to change our identity. It has always been a democratic society - democratic and Christian. It may be multi-cultural - but it is predominantly English.
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That was brilliant. The most eleoquent and sensible speech I have heard on the subject. He was spot on.
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The best you can do is some bbc poll (i mean wtf) and some websites with agendas


whilst laid before you was a video of real life


well f me, you have us hands down
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Your video is an area of Britain that only seems to offend racists...those that want a white man selling tham their morning paper!!

And again do you have the same issue with run down white chav estates? Theres plenty more of them with plenty more who will expect the state to fund their lives
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That was brilliant. The most eleoquent and sensible speech I have heard on the subject. He was spot on.
No its the media that present this picture not the general muslim community. what this man is lacking is rational perspective!
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No its the media that present this picture not the general muslim community. what this man is lacking is rational perspective!
Sorry - but, from my experience, he is not. Many Muslims are totally irrational in their over-reaction to many things - ie the way they threaten the lives of people who disagree with their views and say something they consider offensive - a good case in point is Salmon Rushdie (probably spelt that wrong) - a very public case - but it has happened many times.

We all find things offensive - (some people are extremely offensive) - but it doesn't justify threats of violence and death.
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Your video is an area of Britain that only seems to offend racists...those that want a white man selling tham their morning paper!!

And again do you have the same issue with run down white chav estates? Theres plenty more of them with plenty more who will expect the state to fund their lives
Just wanted to show some support here Netto. This place is like a fecking BNP rally sometimes with the "christian" up the front carrying the banner.
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Sorry - but, from my experience, he is not. Many Muslims are totally irrational in their over-reaction to many things - ie the way they threaten the lives of people who disagree with their views and say something they consider offensive - a good case in point is Salmon Rushdie (probably spelt that wrong) - a very public case - but it has happened many times.

We all find things offensive - (some people are extremely offensive) - but it doesn't justify threats of violence and death.
You're talking about extremists. You're not talking about most muslims. Then, you probably haven't ever met many so they seem exotic to you.

And while your citing Salman Rushdie as an example, remember the HE IS A MUSLIM TOO!
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You're talking about extremists. You're not talking about most muslims. Then, you probably haven't ever met many so they seem exotic to you.

And while your citing Salman Rushdie as an example, remember the HE IS A MUSLIM TOO!
Whether he is Muslim or not is irrelevant. His life was repeatedly threatened because he had offended the Muslim religion. Actually, on reflection - surely the fact he is Muslim gives him more right to criticise - much like a disabled person can crack a joke about disabled people - but an able bodied person can't.

The response to Rushdie's comments was not just a few people - there was a hugh Muslim outcry about it. For years he had to live in hiding. Totally ridiculous - he hadn't killed anyone.

What about the recent event when a young Muslim woman complained to the police about a comment a British couple had made in their own home.

Just ridiculous!
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