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Old 10-11-2009, 06:43 PM #76
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Wrong we do not Drop and Run
but start getting troops out for good now.


Iran is not part of this,
that is your guess work,
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That is all very good in theory - but the reality is our men and women are dying. Why should they. Much as I may sympathise with the ordinary people of Afghanistan - I don't want to save their lives with our sons and daughters' lives. To me - our troops are more important. These countries will probably always have problems - always have had - time for them to sort it out.
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That is all very good in theory - but the reality is our men and women are dying. Why should they. Much as I may sympathise with the ordinary people of Afghanistan - I don't want to save their lives with our sons and daughters' lives. To me - our troops are more important. These countries will probably always have problems - always have had - time for them to sort it out.

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They joined the army, people die, troops die.. It happens all the time.

Again people fail to see the big picture, well more troops are going over there.
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We're wasting our time there. Young Brit lads are going there to be shot or blown up. Most of them not even seeing any 'action'.

Plus, it costs billions per year to fund this war. And what's it all for? Not sure anybody knows. And what's it got to do with us?

How about sorting our own problems out for a start.
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We're wasting our time there. Young Brit lads are going there to be shot or blown up. Most of them not even seeing any 'action'.

Plus, it costs billions per year to fund this war. And what's it all for? Not sure anybody knows. And what's it got to do with us?

How about sorting our own problems out for a start.
Yes, we have many many problems here, dead troops seem to be filling up the news these days.
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They joined the army, people die, troops die.. It happens all the time.

Again people fail to see the big picture, well more troops are going over there.
Alright for people to say who are not actually in the position of being asked to risk their lives. I used to think like that. When you have a loved one out there - you see it from a totally different perspective.

Add to that - these nations do very little to help themselves - all they ever seem to do - is fight - each other, other religions, the West - everybody!

It may be a very controversial thing to say - but I do - and have always believed that religion causes more death and destruction than anything else. They create these problems - why should others get involved. Things will never change.
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Alright for people to say who are not actually in the position of being asked to risk their lives. I used to think like that. When you have a loved one out there - you see it from a totally different perspective.

Add to that - these nations do very little to help themselves - all they ever seem to do - is fight - each other, other religions, the West - everybody!

It may be a very controversial thing to say - but I do - and have always believed that religion causes more death and destruction than anything else. They create these problems - why should others get involved. Things will never change.

I agree with every word of that.

I support our troops 100%, but I'm totally against the war.
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We have no Faith in this Illegal Corrupt Invasion.
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Live on Ch4 News now
Jon Snow is having a Debate with the Public
on why we should move out of that nation.


One of the Bset speakers
said we are making it worse by being there.

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When should we pull out Arista?
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Over 70% of us want to Withdraw.
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70% from what source?

We will pull out when the time is right..

You have have much to learn Arista.. Not nice is it.

Fair to say that the 70% don't have a clue with pulling our troops out would result in..
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Arista you don't have a clue, you have some twisted fk'd up idea in your head and take it as gospel..
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Arista you don't have a clue, you have some twisted fk'd up idea in your head and take it as gospel..

You are the Only one on this thread
with the Dumb Vision of staying out there
you are a Neo Conservative.
You have so much more to learn.


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Ok Arista, again you spit out the same driblbe to gloss over your lack of knowlege on this matter..

I am also shocked that you fail to grasp the reasons why we are still there and pulling out would do more harm tham good..

Silly Arista..
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Ok Arista, again you spit out the same driblbe to gloss over your lack of knowlege on this matter..

I am also shocked that you fail to grasp the reasons why we are still there and pulling out would do more harm tham good..

Silly Arista..

Staying in is doing more Harm
than withdrawing.
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We should pull our troops out NOW before any more loss of our troops lives!
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Ok Arista, again you spit out the same driblbe to gloss over your lack of knowlege on this matter..

I am also shocked that you fail to grasp the reasons why we are still there and pulling out would do more harm tham good..

Silly Arista..
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That said - do not agree with your views. How do you know so much about it then!
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Even One Eyed Scottish Brown
our Un Elected PM is now making fast plans to Pull out.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...n-pullout-date


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Yes Arista i am alone with my views in this forum, but luckly not fully so in the political world that know the mistake of pulling out too soom would do.. Of course we must pull out but when the time is right, and leaving the land to the Taliban would be a very bad move.. Arista it would be wise for you to do some research about this and stop reading the papers, don't do it for me.. Do it for yourself.



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Yes Arista i am alone with my views in this forum, but luckly not fully so in the political world that know the mistake of pulling out too soom would do.. Of course we must pull out but when the time is right, and leaving the land to the Taliban would be a very bad move.. Arista it would be wise for you to do some research about this and stop reading the papers, don't do it for me.. Do it for yourself.



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You still haven't said what makes you the expert on the subject. And if you feel so stongly about it - why don't you sign up and go and fight the good fight then?
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You still haven't said what makes you the expert on the subject. And if you feel so stongly about it - why don't you sign up and go and fight the good fight then?
What will happen if we pull out too soon?
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What will happen if we pull out too soon?
The country will become destablised and become a breeding ground for fanatics who hate us
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The country will become destablised and become a breeding ground for fanatics who hate us
It already is and will continue to be whether we stay or not! Staying there will just result in more pointless loss of life of our young troops. I don't see why one more young soldier should die for that country. They create their own problems - they should solve them. Let those that support the war volunteer their services and risk their lives!!
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