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Niamh. · 11-12-2009, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta

We are living in a material world and you are a material fella. lol. You know what people usually say when they're on their deathbeds? They don't regret the money they made or didn't make, the status they attained in life or the depths of financial ruin they sank to. What they regret is not connecting more with people and telling the people they care about that they loved them with all their hearts. Making a difference in others lives. I find that interesting.

Money can't make you happy if you're not already happy but it can help to take away everyday worries like paying bills and enable you to do things that you might not have been able to do otherwise which would make you happier!!!

setanta · 11-12-2009, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Money can't make you happy if you're not already happy but it can help to take away everyday worries like paying bills and enable you to do things that you might not have been able to do otherwise which would make you happier!!!

Obviously, but in this debate it's about the aquisition of a huge amount of wealth that goes beyond mere comfort so it throws other issues into play, like when is enough enough and what's the motivation behind this obsession with material gain. I think it's important to stress that if money is so important to some for happiness, what happens when that wealth is finally theres? What replaces that need in their lives? Sorry, I just find it fascinating.

Captain.Remy · 11-12-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta

We are living in a material world and you are a material fella. lol. You know what people usually say when they're on their deathbeds? They don't regret the money they made or didn't make, the status they attained in life or the depths of financial ruin they sank to. What they regret is not connecting more with people and telling the people they care about that they loved them with all their hearts. Making a difference in others lives. I find that interesting.

Oh I know I'm a material guy, and quite a spoilt one too, but hey, each one has its vice.
But with all the money of the world, you still can tell people you love them. Why does money have to prevent people from being happy and telling each other their feelings ? That's in people's head really.
Rich people who are unhappy didn't handle all this stuff well.

setanta · 11-12-2009, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

Oh I know I'm a material guy, and quite a spoilt one too, but hey, each one has its vice.
But with all the money of the world, you still can tell people you love them. Why does money have to prevent people from being happy and telling each other their feelings ? That's in people's head really.
Rich people who are unhappy didn't handle all this stuff well.

Well from what I've heard you've grown up in a rich enviroment right, so it probably effects you differently, you know? Or am I wrong?

Niamh. · 11-12-2009, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta

Obviously, but in this debate it's about the aquisition of a huge amount of wealth that goes beyond mere comfort so it throws other issues into play, like when is enough enough and what's the motivation behind this obsession with material gain. I think it's important to stress that if money is so important to some for happiness, what happens when that wealth is finally theres? What replaces that need in their lives? Sorry, I just find it fascinating.

well, for me, it would mean I could give up my job, spend more time with my family and travel a whole lot more.

I wouldn't push the button though cos it's not worth taking someones life for.

setanta · 11-12-2009, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo

well, for me, it would mean I could give up my job, spend more time with my family and travel a whole lot more.

I wouldn't push the button though cos it's not worth taking someones life for.

Yep, but you've got the loved ones all sorted out, don't you darling. hee hee. But that brings it's own problems too, with people dragging out of you for handouts and your children might get spoilt and materialistic. Humans have this amazing ability to create problems in whatever enviroment they settle in.

Niamh. · 11-12-2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta

Yep, but you've got the loved ones all sorted out, don't you darling. hee hee. But that brings it's own problems too, with people dragging out of you for handouts and your children might get spoilt and materialistic. Humans have this amazing ability to create problems in whatever enviroment they settle in.

Well, life is never trouble-free James no matter what situation you're in!!

Jords · 11-12-2009, 04:04 PM

Good question, and I dont think nobody would ever know what they'd actually do unless put in that situation.

But for me, I say I would press it once, and God help me, if it was one of my loved ones (family & friends), Id go jump off a cliff, couldnt cope knowing Id killed somebody I love

If it was random, Id press it twice, so my kids (when I have them) would be fit for life too, but still fill hugely guilty but you wont know who died so it would pass over (but just thinking about taken somebody away from people who love them is horrid).

Captain.Remy · 11-12-2009, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta

Well from what I've heard you've grown up in a rich enviroment right, so it probably effects you differently, you know? Or am I wrong?

I wouldn't say rich, just privileged that my parents do jobs that keep them rather busy: my Mum is a Nurse so she works a lot at night and my dad is a financial advisor and travels around Europe all the time. So yeah sometimes I didn't see them for a week, yes that's the price for money but that doesn't mean we are not happy or we don't tell/show we love each other.
I'm not saying money is the key, of course you need a balance, but trust me, it helps.
I got this teach from my parents who come from poor countries (at the time they arrived here), so just for this reason, they're my idols and why it made my mind on the matter.

setanta · 11-12-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

I wouldn't say rich, just privileged that my parents do jobs that keep them rather busy: my Mum is a Nurse so she works a lot at night and my dad is a financial advisor and travels around Europe all the time. So yeah sometimes I didn't see them for a week, yes that's the price for money but that doesn't mean we are not happy or we don't tell/show we love each other.
I'm not saying money is the key, of course you need a balance, but trust me, it helps.
I got this teach from my parents who come from poor countries (at the time they arrived here), so just for this reason, they're my idols and why it made my mind on the matter.

Of course it does, but if it's your primary motivation in life or that you believe it's the ticket to happiness you're in real trouble, you know? Has to come from within. Now let's dance lol.

Iceman · 11-12-2009, 04:16 PM

I'd tie a rat to a stick and set up a contraption so that it sways back and forward, get him to push the buton.......come on theres a gazillion rats out there........id even donate money so that a rat island could be set up....

Me id consider pushing it once....maybe twice.

Captain.Remy · 11-12-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta

Of course it does, but if it's your primary motivation in life or that you believe it's the ticket to happiness you're in real trouble, you know? Has to come from within. Now let's dance lol.

That's not what I think. I've had my heart broken (like I said, the only thing you cannot buy is love), I've had some issues and still do but I think I'd be way worse if I didn't have any money.

Crimson Dynamo · 11-12-2009, 04:16 PM

the love of money is the root of all evil

1 Timothy 6:10: For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil.

Shaun · 11-12-2009, 04:18 PM

someone's seen the trailer for 'The Box'

yes. I'd press it once, but only once. 1mil would be enough for me.

WOMBAI · 11-12-2009, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephanie

i would push it once.

That might be ok if Olly is the one that cops it!

Enid · 11-12-2009, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun

someone's seen the trailer for 'The Box'

yes. I'd press it once, but only once. 1mil would be enough for me.

Hahah I honestly didn't even remember seeing the trailer till you mentioned it. I saw a similar post on another forum and thought it would spark up an interesting discussion.

Enid · 11-12-2009, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

the love of money is the root of all evil

1 Timothy 6:10: For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil.

What a load of poppycock!

Niamh. · 11-12-2009, 04:45 PM

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Hahah I honestly didn't even remember seeing the trailer till you mentioned it. I saw a similar post on another forum and thought it would spark up an interesting discussion.

Wasn't it a ghost story before a film? Did anybody else hear that, I heard when I was a kid and the person asks after they press the button who died and the man says the person who pushed the button before you!

Enid · 11-12-2009, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Schumacher

I'd tie a rat to a stick and set up a contraption so that it sways back and forward, get him to push the buton.......come on theres a gazillion rats out there........id even donate money so that a rat island could be set up....

Me id consider pushing it once....maybe twice.

That would be one rich rat!

WOMBAI · 11-12-2009, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Money can't make you happy if you're not already happy but it can help to take away everyday worries like paying bills and enable you to do things that you might not have been able to do otherwise which would make you happier!!!

Blood money!

setanta · 11-12-2009, 04:47 PM

I'm honestly shocked at how many would do it lol.

Niamh. · 11-12-2009, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Blood money!

I wouldn't do it, I couldn't live with that guilt hanging over me!!

Enid · 11-12-2009, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Blood money!

Yep, it would be blood money, but it's still money. I would not at all be bothered where it came from, just as long as I know myself and my family were safe.

setanta · 11-12-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Enid

Yep, it would be blood money, but it's still money. I would not at all be bothered where it came from, just as long as I know myself and my family were safe.

I could never look at myself in the mirror again with any kind of pride or self assurance. it would haunt you for the rest of your life.

Enid · 11-12-2009, 04:54 PM

Not me, I assure you.

I don't care for people I don't know. I am not a charitable person, nor do I do anything if it's not for my own gain. I cherish the one's close to me, but I'd **** all over everyone else.

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