[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Tom

Your signature, prime example why he probably is.

Indeed, god forbid anyone get excited about winning the x factor...jesus christ, that MUST mean he is gay!

[Tom]

Originally Posted by VickyJ

Indeed, god forbid anyone get excited about winning the x factor...jesus christ, that MUST mean he is gay!

Again, check his mannerisms.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Tom

Again, check his mannerisms.

And again, just because he seems 'camp'...does not mean hes gay.

[Twilight]

Originally Posted by VickyJ

Indeed, god forbid anyone get excited about winning the x factor...jesus christ, that MUST mean he is gay!

Haha

[setanta]

Who cares if he's gay or not? That's right, the people who purchase these kind of albums, so that's why he's been told to shout out from the highest roof top that he's a heterosexual young man. It's just good for business.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by setanta

so that's why he's been told to shout out from the highest roof top that he's a heterosexual young man. It's just good for business.

Or maybe, just maybe, he IS straight.

I see no reason whatsoever not to believe what he says and to be quite honest, Im sick of seeing people branded 'gay' because of their personalities...you know gay people are no different to anyone else.

My two best ,mates are gay, one is as camp as you can get and the other, noone even knows he is gay, and people act shocked when he tells them. People seem to think the slightest bit of 'campness' makes someone gay, not the case and its just an ignorant view tbh.

[setanta]

Originally Posted by VickyJ

Or maybe, just maybe, he IS straight.

I see no reason whatsoever not to believe what he says and to be quite honest, Im sick of seeing people branded 'gay' because of their personalities...you know gay people are no different to anyone else.

My two best ,mates are gay, one is as camp as you can get and the other, noone even knows he is gay, and people act shocked when he tells them. People seem to think the slightest bit of 'campness' makes someone gay, not the case and its just an ignorant view tbh.

My whole point is that I don't really give a shite if he likes to roll around in peanut butter or engage in any other sexual activity for that matter because it's really none of our business and has no relevance to him as an artist for me. But the general public are far more fickle than that and that's why he's been told to come out with this interview. It's a PR stunt and has nothing to do with his sexuality - which we shouldn't give two fŁcks about -and more to do with selling records.

[Captain.Remy]

Joe straight ? Yeah right lmao

[Crimson Dynamo]

Joe hates Lady Gaga


hoho

[Jords]

Didn't know he was a virgin, bet Rachel want to take that away

[Twilight]

Lol tom ya don't know this guy i know, he seems so gay yet he has a GF

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Twilight

Lol tom ya don't know this guy i know, he seems so gay yet he has a GF

Having a girlfriend doesn't mean you're straight, a lot of people use it as a cover up

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Tom

Having a girlfriend doesn't mean you're straight, a lot of people use it as a cover up

LOL it gets worse.

So any guy who is camp, is using his girlfriend to cover up being gay...I've heard it all now.

[Twilight]

Originally Posted by VickyJ

LOL it gets worse.

So any guy who is camp, is using his girlfriend to cover up being gay...I've heard it all now.

Everyone must be gay then:P

[Tom]

Originally Posted by VickyJ

LOL it gets worse.

So any guy who is camp, is using his girlfriend to cover up being gay...I've heard it all now.

Depends how camp they are

If Marco from BB5 claimed to be straight, would you believe him?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Tom

Depends how camp they are

If Marco from BB5 claimed to be straight, would you believe him?

I would have no reason to disbelieve him...so yes.

People can be camp and not gay...I know people like that, not quite to the extreme of marco...but it does happen and who am I to say someone is lying about something I know nothing about?

[Jords]

Joe has said hes not gay, that should be the end of it. I dont even find him that camp, he just seems like a nice geniune lad. But even if he was, who cares?

[Tom]

and you think I sound ridiculous

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Tom

and you think I sound ridiculous

Because I wouldnt question what someone says? Just because of stereotyping?

Yes that makes me sound ridiculous...

[Jords]

Tom I disagree with you.
Marco is actually gay, there is quite the correlation between being camp when a man is gay, so its not right to ask that.

Anyway, what makes you think Joe is gay? Did he do something inparticular?

[Vicky.]

Tom, lets try the opposite of what your saying.

Lets say...some big macho, not camp at all guy, tells you he is gay.

Would you believe him?

[Tom]

Originally Posted by VickyJ

Because I wouldnt question what someone says? Just because of stereotyping?

Yes that makes me sound ridiculous...

I'm sorry but step outside your flowery little bubble where everything is equal and look at this from a realistic point of view.

Originally Posted by Jords

Tom I disagree with you.
Marco is actually gay, there is quite the correlation between being camp when a man is gay, so its not right to ask that.

Anyway, what makes you think Joe is gay? Did he do something inparticular?

I was using Marco as an example. We all know he's gay because he admitted it, but if he was still in the closet and was claiming he was straight, would you believe him? After all you can be extremely camp and straight ...

Originally Posted by VickyJ

Tom, lets try the opposite of what your saying.

Lets say...some big macho, not camp at all guy, tells you he is gay.

Would you believe him?

I'd be a bit uncertain tbh, I'd never believe he was fully blown gay if he was how you describe. Bi at most. What you fail to see is that there is psychology attached to sexuality and mannerisms e.g. there have been studies on the way straight and gay people walk.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Tom

I'm sorry but step outside your flowery little bubble where everything is equal and look at this from a realistic point of view.

Or maybe you should stop being a dick and accept that not everyone is as closed minded as you? Instead of me stepping out of my 'flowery little bubble'. Ive never heard anything so patronising in my entire life.

I know camp people who are straight. As I know gay people who are not the slightest bit camp. It happens.

Originally Posted by Tom

I'd be a bit uncertain tbh, I'd never believe he was fully blown gay if he was how you describe.

Again, who are you to question what that person says?

[Tom]

Originally Posted by VickyJ

Maybe you should stop being a dick and accept that not everyone is as closed minded as you? Instead of me stepping out of my 'flowery little bubble'. Ive never heard anything so patronising in my entire life.

I know camp people who are straight. As I know gay people who are not the slightest bit camp. It happens.

Yeah, you're still kind of missing my point. Good at selective reading aren't you?

Again, who are you to question what that person says?

You mean like you question the way people act branding them with a fake personality etc?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Tom

You mean like you question the way people act branding them with a fake personality etc?

Thats totally different to steroptyping all camp people as gay...or saying you would question a 'manly man' who said he was gay.