[Brad.]

Originally Posted by RachelRiceFan10.0

This is what happend to me yesterday when supporting Sov. So don't you start, many like me think he's nothing but a boring cleaner atm.
Sov is more entertaining than him anyway!

LOL don't you start as well. This isn't a thread about Vinnie, there are other threads in this forum in which I have already defended him sufficiently. Sov is a chavvy, depressing, unfunny person who I feel doesn't add anything to the group dynamics, if anything she's an "outsider" if you like.

[mlomax]

Originally Posted by Brad.

LOL don't you start as well. This isn't a thread about Vinnie, there are other threads in this forum in which I have already defended him sufficiently. Sov is a chavvy, depressing, unfunny person who I feel doesn't add anything to the group dynamics, if anything she's an "outsider" if you like.

However if there was not the likes of jonas,katia,sov and sisqo then all we would have is a room of people sleeping in a bed room, then having food then bed room then food.

I guees you do not like chavs? if you got to know some im sure u will find that not all chavs are annoying, i personally prefor chavs over many other types and i am not a chav.. Also back to the group dynamics... her jonas sisqo and katia are the group.. with out them u have a bunch on hibinating boring people, how is she depressing? has she said anything about jumping the wall already? no... i dont think she has, she just said that she doesnt know how to speak to some people in the house which is understandable. and outsider you say? is this because she is younger? and likes her own image instead of the image which everyone else goes for?

[Brad.]

Originally Posted by mlomax

However if there was not the likes of jonas,katia,sov and sisqo then all we would have is a room of people sleeping in a bed room, then having food then bed room then food.

I guees you do not like chavs? if you got to know some im sure u will find that not all chavs are annoying, i personally prefor chavs over many other types and i am not a chav.. Also back to the group dynamics... her jonas sisqo and katia are the group.. with out them u have a bunch on hibinating boring people, how is she depressing? has she said anything about jumping the wall already? no... i dont think she has, she just said that she doesnt know how to speak to some people in the house which is understandable. and outsider you say? is this because she is younger? and likes her own image instead of the image which everyone else goes for?

I find that Lady Sovereign is not part of the main group dynamic, or a sub-group, along with the likes of Heidi, who I also feel is keeping out of the way of the others for some reason or another.

I don't mind chavs, but I don't particularly like Sov because she is just an ignorant chav who isn't willing to get to know Stephanie (as she proved in the diary room during last night's HL show).

Vinnie is worried about his son who is fighting in Afghanistan as we speak, so doing something pro-active like cleaning helps to keep his mind off his son - this is why Vinnie threatened to jump the garden wall. Anyway, he said that before his birthday celebrations and after the task, which took his mind off his son completely for the whole day. News has also emerged that Heidi's brother drowned just a few days before she entered the house, but she isn't even doing cleaning or something to take her mind off of that.

I feel that Sov could be more of a part of the Jonas, Katia and Sisqó group, but she doesn't really make the effort other than when smoking with them - and it is no excuse that she is younger than them because she is the same age as all of them. I just see her as an outcast in general, but maybe in the next few days she will merge into the main group more.