[Stu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

A look, a sound (accent), a liking for lady Gaga/Britney, Cheryl Cole, an ridiculous self interest in looks, fashion, lotions, not liking football, sports.

We call that a stereotype in the grown up's world sweetie.

And AfroMullet, actually I don't know what you mean. I doubt anybody does. Considering the best argument you can give against gays is pretty much 'coz I don't like it!'.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I'm not but I do wonder why some people are, if something has no relation or effect on you then why hate it? I'm throughly in the camp that most true homophobes have at least some gay tendancies and the homophobia stems from that. I just don't get why people would be that bothered except for potential religious reasons and such.

I don't think Sexual orientation is a choice, it's near enough proved that there's a gay gene so it can't be unnatural if someone is born that way.

Yes but that argument does not really work anywhere else - people who dislike people or things do not do so because they covet them secretly. I think that line about you must be gay yourself stems from a defence mechanism and way to try and gain the ascendancy if bullied about being gay, ironically that line of argument rather denigrates being gay in the first place.

that said I dislike Nazis but find the uniforms rather snazzy and have already broken my new years resolution about wearing them.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Stu

We call that a stereotype in the grown up's world sweetie.

utter fact.


and i even missed out kylie

[Stu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

utter fact.


and i even missed out kylie

Fallacy won't save you now son. You put foward a reduntant argument based on the most stereotypical gay feminine males on the planet. I'm not denying they exist, but not all gay men are like that.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Stu

Fallacy won't save you now son. You put foward a reduntant argument based on the most stereotypical gay feminine males on the planet. I'm not denying they exist, but not all gay men are like that.

all the ones that are on telly are and here too it seems. perhaps you should get onto the gay union and bollock their pr so to speak.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Yes but that argument does not really work anywhere else - people who dislike people or things do not do so because they covet them secretly. I think that line about you must be gay yourself stems from a defence mechanism and way to try and gain the ascendancy if bullied about being gay, ironically that line of argument rather denigrates being gay in the first place.

that said I dislike Nazis but find the uniforms rather snazzy and have already broken my new years resolution about wearing them.

I said 'True Homophobes' I didn't say everyone. and Gay tendancies doesn't mean you're gay neccesarily, it's not that black and white so I'm not saying Homophobes are all gays, just that a few of the die hard ones could be dealing with a few issues.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

all the ones that are on telly are and here too it seems. perhaps you should get onto the gay union and bollock their pr so to speak.

Don't you have football game to go to or a Top Gear boxset to have a nice wank over? It's been a long day at the _________ engineering site. Reward yourself.

[MrGaryy]

Originally Posted by AfroMullet

To me its just isnt natural. The ultimate reason for sex is pro creation - and thats not even from a religious aspect, if you look at how everyting works etc it is, and two dudes cant procreate. Im like what you do behind closed doors is your business but dont bring it round me. Plus i dont believe in a gay gene.

so couples who aren't able to have children should just give up on sex then? if they were to go by your moral that sex is simply for reproducing?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Stu

Don't you have football game to go to or a Top Gear boxset to have a nice wank over? It's been a long day at the _________ engineering site. Reward yourself.

lol at you trying to think of men things

[Stu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

lol at you trying to think of men things

They are men things. And you do like them.

As you can see I have switched to the LeatherTrumpet system of cultural logic.

[xDramatick]

...of course I'm not.
I don't really see why people are :\ I can see how you may find the gay stereotype irritating, but not all gays are like that :\ My bf doesn't give two ***** about fashion, listens to Pink Floyd, Oasis, Blur and Led Zepellin, can't stand GaGa/Britney and you wouldn't tell he was gay unless you saw me with him :|

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Stu

They are men things. And you do like them.

As you can see I have switched to the LeatherTrumpet system of cultural logic.

you do realise that Top Gear is not a show about drugs, right?

[Stu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

you do realise that Top Gear is not a show about drugs, right?

So that's where I have been going wrong all these years. Here's me hoping Jeremy and the lads will stop all the car **** for a brief tutorial about the safe useage of MDMA .

Not really, people can do what they want, i try to avoid them if i think they want to you know what... in that sense i actually think Yes.

[kcmik]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

Yeah, burn all these fucking homos.

No seriously, people do whatever they want with their body, it's not my problem but it's not my thing really. I cannot see the attraction for another guy, and I can't see why a lot of them are acting like camp fabulous queens. It doesn't make them any favour. I mean, you can be gay but still being masculine and not looking like a girl. That does irritate me to be honest.

Apart from that, it's not my problem.

Oh my god, i so agree with you. Gay people, man or woman, not a problem. wouldn't know if they where gay or not, like straight people. It's the ones who think they're different coz they are... acting camp etc... i know a few an my god normal life you wouldn't even think they was. Nights out...WOW. your not in that crowd, do one???? i've never met people so up their own asses when they're with they're own crowd. Sad. x

[Stu]

Same thing happens with straight people kid. It all depends on the person. Are you saying supercharged, up there own arse hetereosexual party animals don't exist?

Bollocks.

[karezza]

Homo means same. Phobic means fear.

Am I afraid of myself? Yes I am.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

lol at lesbians. like they really exist.

Oh dear

[sassy]

Not at all.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by sassy

Not at all.

some of your best friends are homogays..

[Fom]

How can you believe a gay gene doesn't exist? It is scientifically proven... oh dear. I think that is people being stubborn rather than having an opinion.

I think it is perfectly fine to dislike gay people if they are the type that prance around like a girl, swirling their hips with bright pink fairy wings on. I think its un fair to dislike 2 normal men having genuine feelings for each other, thats biological so don't hate on it, it is like looking at someone in disgust because they are born with brown hair, it isn't their fault.

[Lemo]

im gay myself but i dont like ******s or cross dressers *cough alex reid*

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Fom

How can you believe a gay gene doesn't exist? It is scientifically proven... oh dear. I think that is people being stubborn rather than having an opinion.

I think it is perfectly fine to dislike gay people if they are the type that prance around like a girl, swirling their hips with bright pink fairy wings on. I think its un fair to dislike 2 normal men having genuine feelings for each other, thats biological so don't hate on it, it is like looking at someone in disgust because they are born with brown hair, it isn't their fault.

Because it isn't conclusive that it exists

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Tom

Because it isn't conclusive that it exists

correct. there is far more evidence to support upbringing, just like most sexual proclivity.

[Ramsay]

as long as they dont start coming on to me then im fine with them