[PaulyJ]

If by Rebel you mean opening a can of Corned Beef then ok, but ever since that mistake she has been singled out, thus she looks like a rebel if you forget why she walked out of the meeting.

To me a rebel rages against authority, Cat raged against BB because they we're the authority not because she felt mis-treated by BB

Sov raged(ok more like tuted) against Vinnie and the meeting and the concensus which was against her because she felt she was being unfairly treated

A rebel asks where is the authority so i can rage, where as Sov waits till she is mis-treated before raging, i think that is true of us all.

I agree she is out of her comefort zone though she has nothing in common with a lot of the Hm's. But that does not suggest her as a Rebel.

[Clockers]

Originally Posted by PaulyJ

If by Rebel you mean opening a can of Corned Beef then ok, but ever since that mistake she has been singled out, thus she looks like a rebel if you forget why she walked out of the meeting.

To me a rebel rages against authority, Cat raged against BB because they we're the authority not because she felt mis-treated by BB

Sov raged(ok more like tuted) against Vinnie and the meeting and the concensus which was against her because she felt she was being unfairly treated

A rebel asks where is the authority so i can rage, where as Sov waits till she is mis-treated before raging, i think that is true of us all.

I agree she is out of her comefort zone though she has nothing in common with a lot of the Hm's. But that does not suggest her as a Rebel.

Must be watching different shows, because one of the funder mental reasons why Sov is up is she not a team player. Playing in a team requires authority, a guide for the whole group to follow. She part of the group but not the team, the black sheep. The sad thing is she has no will power or mental strength to deal with her surroundings in any other way but to throw constant strops and piss people off.

[PaulyJ]

Originally Posted by Clockers

Must be watching different shows, because one of the funder mental reasons why Sov is up is she not a team player. Playing in a team requires authority, a guide for the whole group to follow. She part of the group but not the team, the black sheep. The sad thing is she has no will power or mental strength to deal with her surroundings in any other way but to throw constant strops and piss people off.

I don't really dis-agree with anything you've said except the Rebel tag, she is pritty much what you have said she is, but why do you speak against someone struggling in an environment she is not coping well with. Two often on BB the "Team" often with self installed leaders, often having become the leader by way of dubious gossipy tactical bad mouthing, and the show of skill in putting socially weaker Hm's down, dictate opinion in the house and also in the outside world including this Forum, and the person who is struggling is the one to get the labels.

I don't understand the purpose of singling her out and iscolating her further by talking about her, and bad mouthing her to Johan one of her only friends left if the purpose is not to make her problems worse. Far better to keep her in the group and reason with her i think. Their is a vileness growing against her, fed by her behaviour in the house such as i have just seen her begging for cigs, that behaviour is now deemed terrible bad, rude, disrespectful, and is now forcing Jonas to reconsider his friendship with Sov, i cant help but think that was Vinnie's intention when he raised the issue, after Sov left the room.

[Clockers]

Originally Posted by PaulyJ

I don't really dis-agree with anything you've said except the Rebel tag, she is pritty much what you have said she is, but why do you speak against someone struggling in an environment she is not coping well with. Two often on BB the "Team" often with self installed leaders, often having become the leader by way of dubious gossipy tactical bad mouthing, and the show of skill in putting socially weaker Hm's down, dictate opinion in the house and also in the outside world including this Forum, and the person who is struggling is the one to get the labels.

I don't understand the purpose of singling her out and iscolating her further by talking about her, and bad mouthing her to Johan one of her only friends left if the purpose is not to make her problems worse. Far better to keep her in the group and reason with her i think. Their is a vileness growing against her, fed by her behaviour in the house such as i have just seen her begging for cigs, that behaviour is now deemed terrible bad, rude, disrespectful, and is now forcing Jonas to reconsider his friendship with Sov, i cant help but think that was Vinnie's intention when he raised the issue, after Sov left the room.

Ok I see where you going too, but being singled out is on her own accord. The rebel tag is about her being rebel with out a clue. I know she not starting a rebellion or anything like that, but she is dumb and has only herself to blame.