[blueberry]

If this is the future of Britain then the Aztecs may aswell be right about 2012..whats the point.

[HellShark]

Originally Posted by Deliverance

Well I personally wouldn't single out one person. However true it is that this person is a prat. It is easy though to put desperate folks together for entertainment and then sit back and watch the sparks fly. The responsibility for this in a wider social sense lies not with the individuals in the house.

But it is certainly something worth looking at from the responsibility of the media. Further than that it is the voyeurism type mentality combined with boredom from the public reaction and involvement that makes reality tv popular yet strange.

As much as there are other examples, e.g Stephanies blatant dislike of Jonas juvenile side, it's dealt with in an adult matter. Sov approaches confrontations by either provoking further, being stubborn or acting childish, it's a representation of her demographic though. The chavvish underbelly of society, they think every is owed to them and have no respect for themselves or others.

[blueberry]

Originally Posted by BigBroFanHere

Well actually i don't vote. And atleast i'm not calling people scum over what i've seen on tv

I see people like her everyday..lets call them the Jeremy Kyle generation,the pyjamas in the day time people.





I stopped on of the people once and asked why at 3pm is she going down the shops and still in her pyjamas to be told these were her "going out" pyjamas. I nearly collapsed ..lol

[tintedshadow]

Originally Posted by HellShark

There is a culture clash, but only one person is being a complete ****.

yeah.....vinnie...

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by blueberry

I see people like her everyday..lets call them the Jeremy Kyle generation,the pyjamas in the day time people.





I stopped on of the people once and asked why at 3pm is she going down the shops and still in her pyjamas to be told these were her "going out" pyjamas. I nearly collapsed ..lol

True Jezza material !!!

[ss00]

lol.

[tintedshadow]

Originally Posted by blueberry

I see people like her everyday..lets call them the Jeremy Kyle generation,the pyjamas in the day time people.





I stopped on of the people once and asked why at 3pm is she going down the shops and still in her pyjamas to be told these were her "going out" pyjamas. I nearly collapsed ..lol

because you felt the need to "understand" her mindframe?for wearing pj's?how about mind your own damn business?

[blueberry]

Originally Posted by tintedshadow

because you felt the need to "understand" her mindframe?for wearing pj's?how about mind your own damn business?

No i won't...we'll soon wake them up if we cut all benefits and issued food vouchers. Make them pick litter to earn them too.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by BigBroFanHere

Well actually i don't vote. And atleast i'm not calling people scum over what i've seen on tv

Maybe not but you have a rather large banner saying support sov, isnt that a bit hypocritical unless you know her , in fact unless you know all the housemates personally, you shouldnt really have said banner saying she is worthy of support above any other housemate?

[tintedshadow]

Originally Posted by blueberry

No i won't...we'll soon wake them up if we cut all benefits and issued food vouchers. Make them pick litter to earn them too.

i never understand numb nuts like you,as if your so much more superior?tbh your probably a chav in disguise you seem to know alot on the subject.. hows about you dont judge someone based on class?because one day someone will be descriminating you for much the same reasons..

[blueberry]

Originally Posted by tintedshadow

i never understand numb nuts like you,as if your so much more superior?tbh your probably a chav in disguise you seem to know alot on the subject.. hows about you dont judge someone based on class?because one day someone will be descriminating you for much the same reasons..

Through hard work and education most of the social barriers go away

[tintedshadow]

Originally Posted by blueberry

Through hard work and education most of the social barriers go away

apparently not as sovereign put in the work,as did half of the people on your feeble little list..

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by tintedshadow

i never understand numb nuts like you,as if your so much more superior?tbh your probably a chav in disguise you seem to know alot on the subject.. hows about you dont judge someone based on class?because one day someone will be descriminating you for much the same reasons..

i didnt realise we had a social class consisting of chavs or benefit spongers, please explain and qualify.

[Stacey.]

see you!

[blueberry]

Originally Posted by tintedshadow

apparently not as sovereign put in the work,as did half of the people on your feeble little list..

She hasn't...she's a champion of a disgusting sub culture who with the others are put on a pedestal by the pyjama posse.

[blueberry]

Originally Posted by Shasown

i didnt realise we had a social class consisting of chavs or benefit spongers, please explain and qualify.

lol

[Deliverance]

Originally Posted by blueberry

Through hard work and education most of the social barriers go away

Very true. But it is easy to look at how the other half lives and judge them as an educated person?. That in itself could be seen as ironic when you really think about it. I am sure that some folks might find your opinions and views just as offensive as you may find theirs.

As much as you are educated and all that in your ways and views... then equally you could find an education from others as well (irrespective of their walks of life). Is that not the real key to education? and in fact is that what education is all about? I.e. about actual learning?

[tintedshadow]

Originally Posted by blueberry

She hasn't...she's a champion of a disgusting sub culture who with the others at put of a pedestal by the pyjama posse.

no,the diffrence between me and you is objectively i can see what she's achieved in her life,while you cant look past her class.. it's sad really.. she's twenty four and produced music which is obviosly an acquired taste,but even so she's worked hard for it,and toured in numerous countries,been signed to def jam (which i dont think she's apart of now). point being that sounds like someone who's grafted to me...


denying she's worked hard to be where she is doesnt make sense,since she's on the show for what she's done in the past..

anyways anyone who truly works hard knows not to knock someone else's hustle,which leads me to believe you've lead a very sheltered life..

[tintedshadow]

Originally Posted by Shasown

i didnt realise we had a social class consisting of chavs or benefit spongers, please explain and qualify.

me neither,but as it stands its true... what explanation do you require kid?

[Deliverance]

Originally Posted by tintedshadow

no,the diffrence between me and you is objectively i can see what she's achieved in her life,while you cant look past her class.. it's sad really.. she's twenty four and produced music which is obviosly an acquired taste,but even so she's worked hard for it,and toured in numerous countries,been signed to def jam (which i dont think she's apart of now). point being that sounds like someone who's grafted to me...

anyone who truly works hard knows not to knock someone else's hustle,which leads me to believe you've lead a very sheltered life..

I agree with you, it is rare to see anyone of this age to succeed as much in such a short time. That in itself deserves respect.

I don't agree with the personal points that you made though. The fella has a point, albeit a point that needs educating for sure.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by tintedshadow

no,the diffrence between me and you is objectively i can see what she's achieved in her life,while you cant look past her class.. it's sad really.. she's twenty four and produced music which is obviosly an acquired taste,but even so she's worked hard for it,and toured in numerous countries,been signed to def jam (which i dont think she's apart of now). point being that sounds like someone who's grafted to me...

anyone who truly works hard knows not to knock someone else's hustle,which leads me to believe you've lead a very sheltered life..

I hate to say it but from what I have seen of Sov on the show, she wouldnt know hard work if it walked up and bit her on the arrrse. She had a little talent and got very very lucky to be picked up is all. If she was hard working etc, she would be using her hard work and talent to break the UK market as opposed to being lazy and using CBB to kickstart her UK career

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by tintedshadow

me neither,but as it stands its true... what explanation do you require kid?

Fuccking Kid? you naive numpty I am old enough to be your dad possibly even your grandad.

[Deliverance]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Fuccking Kid? you naive numpty I am old enough to be your dad possibly even your grandad.

Oh get over yourself for fecks sake. Reacting like this is just plain daft and is going to bring a genuine intelligent debate down (the same could be said of others as well). Best of luck with that I'm out of it as such.

Gonna look for some more humourous, less chip on the shoulder types.

[tintedshadow]

Originally Posted by Shasown

I hate to say it but from what I have seen of Sov on the show, she wouldnt know hard work if it walked up and bit her on the arrrse. She had a little talent and got very very lucky to be picked up is all. If she was hard working etc, she would be using her hard work and talent to break the UK market as opposed to being lazy and using CBB to kickstart her UK career

thats a matter of perspective i suppose,since i work in the music industry i know of the work she had to put in,so i can appreciate it more i suppose.. if we're basing how hard someone works by how they are on this show,then truly stephanie,stephan,dane and sisqo are all lazy too,since theyre careers have been dead for a while now..

[tintedshadow]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Fuccking Kid? you naive numpty I am old enough to be your dad possibly even your grandad.

k kid...