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Ghostinthehouse · 24-01-2010, 03:32 AM

[QUOTE][Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot
Hitler believed in the holocaust. Respect his beliefs./QUOTE]

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Originally Posted by Jack_

This pretty much does what my point did, renders the term 'respect' pointless.

RLMAO.

You assume that because Hitler existed that respect is pointless. That is hilarious.

InOne · 24-01-2010, 03:36 AM

Religion is a joke. I'll never respect it, I urge theists to actually read their own holy books properly. Religion is there to be laughed at, not respected, it is for the weak minded and those who wish to be taken advantage of, I pity them. Actually fuck it, I laugh at them

headaball · 24-01-2010, 03:37 AM

Youtube video

Jack_ · 24-01-2010, 03:38 AM

[QUOTE=Ghostinthehouse;2911004]

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[Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot
Hitler believed in the holocaust. Respect his beliefs./QUOTE]

RLMAO.

You assume that because Hitler existed that respect is pointless. That is hilarious.

Well you've just dodged points in this entire debate with Stu so I'm certainly not getting into one with you myself. But it's pointless in the context of this debate and in reference to the point Stu made.

Girlinstatic · 24-01-2010, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack_

The 'respect others beliefs' argument is essentially to make the world a better place. Now, if we're all 'accepting' others beliefs, we are not insulting them, nor wanting them to die or anything of the sort, just accepting them, and moving on. That still makes the world 'a better place'.

Okay maybe we have all been arguing over the wrong word. But accepting, is in a way respecting anyway right? You're aknowledging that other beliefs exist and other people live their life by them - for whatever reason, and continuing to let them live a peaceful life without insulting or doing anything that could be considered offensive. To me that is respecting anyway? In the dictionary under respect there is this:

"to refrain from intruding upon or interfering with"

As one of the definitions, and that is specifically what I was talking about.

Stu · 24-01-2010, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Girlinstatic

Okay maybe we have all been arguing over the wrong word. But accepting, is in a way respecting anyway right? You're aknowledging that other beliefs exist and other people live their life by them - for whatever reason, and continuing to let them live a peaceful life without insulting or doing anything that could be considered offensive. To me that is respecting anyway? In the dictionary under respect there is this:

"to refrain from intruding upon or interfering with"

As one of the definitions, and that is specifically what I was talking about.

Oh come on. You can't honestly say 'respecting' and 'accepting' are the same thing.

Accepting = Acknowledging something exists.
Respecting = Respecting this thing.

I do not respect organised religion. I do, however, realise that it exists.

InOne hit the nail on the head.

Also, it appears I was wrong in an early post stating no law ties me to respecting other beliefs. Believe it or not we have a blasphemy law in Ireland now. YouTube if you don't believe me. So believe it or not, me saying God is a dummy is actually breaking the law!

InOne · 24-01-2010, 03:51 AM

Girlinstatic just seems like a middle class PC byatch

Claymores · 24-01-2010, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by InOne

Girlinstatic just seems like a middle class PC byatch

I love - shut lines

headaball · 24-01-2010, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by InOne

Girlinstatic just seems like a middle class PC byatch

Politically incorrect comments are allowed on here unless you insult the poofters, then you're ****ed.

Girlinstatic · 24-01-2010, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by InOne

Girlinstatic just seems like a middle class PC byatch

Incorrect.

And yes, Judas Iscariot, I think that by that definition I pointed out, they somewhat merge/cross. Not that I even care - what Jack put forward about accepting is all I would want from anyone, anyway.

InOne · 24-01-2010, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by headaball

Politically incorrect comments are allowed on here unless you insult the poofters, then you're ****ed.

Good job shes new then. I just feel anyone sticking up for religion deserves a slap.

Claymores · 24-01-2010, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by InOne

Good job shes new then. I just feel anyone sticking up for religion deserves a slap.

Excellent quote

Stu · 24-01-2010, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Girlinstatic

Incorrect.

And yes, Judas Iscariot, I think that by that definition I pointed out, they somewhat merge/cross. Not that I even care - what Jack put forward about accepting is all I would want from anyone, anyway.

Fair enough, we have a compromise, then

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Definitions are a dangerous business on forums LOL.

headaball · 24-01-2010, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by InOne

Good job shes new then. I just feel anyone sticking up for religion deserves a slap.

I was gonna defend Steve because I like him but my mind isn't functioning properly and I couldn't be bothered.

InOne · 24-01-2010, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by headaball

I was gonna defend Steve because I like him but my mind isn't functioning properly and I couldn't be bothered.

There is no way to defend him

headaball · 24-01-2010, 04:31 AM

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There is no way to defend him

There's lots of ways. One being Stevie B is better than you and you're opinion of him is equal to donkey poo.

InOne · 24-01-2010, 04:33 AM

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There's lots of ways. One being Stevie B is better than you and you're opinion of him is equal to donkey poo.

I don't consider a theist to be better than me, especially Baldwin.

setanta · 24-01-2010, 04:36 AM

That was a fun, if slightly frustrating read. Well done lads.

headaball · 24-01-2010, 04:36 AM

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I don't consider a theist to be better than me, especially Baldwin.

What about Martin Luther King then?

InOne · 24-01-2010, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by headaball

What about Martin Luther King then?

What about him??

headaball · 24-01-2010, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by InOne

What about him??

He was a theist, are you better than him?

headaball · 24-01-2010, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

just coz MLK was a cristian u hav to respec the faith lol

... at least I assume that's what he is getting at.

Even if MLK did take his inspiration from religion - does that mean he or it was right?

Hell no.

Wrong.

InOne · 24-01-2010, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by headaball

He was a theist, are you better than him?

What would make me worse than him?

headaball · 24-01-2010, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by InOne

What would make me worse than him?

Answer the question.

InOne · 24-01-2010, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by headaball

Answer the question.

That is the thing, his motives were not just religious but political, alot more political that religious, so in terms on a none delusional mind yes, but as in a icon and revolutionist to black people in america, no...

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